Re: News Flash: Resignation of Executive Board members, delink of zucchini.fl.us.blitzed.org

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> In order to get their participation, I had to send voting reminders
> daily, and finally contact her on IRC.  Of course I have no way to

Perhaps an automated vote remind would be a good thing? Or someone in
charge of votes? I had thought anthony was the vote gatherer. From my
experience probing people for votes has always been done?

> It is not acceptable that:

I did not say it was acceptable. I do say it could/should have been done
with an admin vote.

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> chocolate was missing every single config change apart from the one
> that I personally msged Mark about, which got half done.  He

Was he not at a conference?

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> John replied and said that he was "away or detached" as his only
> explanation.  Do you regard that as an acceptable explanation for

No. But that again is something for the community to decide in my opinion.
Especially on a server that is just sponsored here by lars and admined by
someone else.

> Should that behaviour have been encouraged?
>

No. But it could have been dealt with by the admin team with a vote. This
would have sent a much better and clearer msg that this type of behaviour
is not okay, of which the majority of the admin community would be
standing behind.

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> If you don't like me saying that "the admin team has failed to care"
> or whatever then just focus on the facts.  If I truly thought that


Some of the admin team have been too busy to focus on irc. If they did not
care, they would not be here at all.


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> What you appear to be advocating is that some admins can give so
> little time that they expect others to edit their config files via
> email and irc?

I appear to be advocating working as an admin team. When you bring delink
votes up, the server(s) in question cannot vote on their own delink.. so I
fail to see the issue of sending a clear message representing all of the
admins instead of one person.

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> > thats all I really have to say about all of this drama.
>
> Just be aware that while you charecterise it as drama as if to
> dismiss it, you do actually participate in it.

I do not dismiss it at all. I am quite concerned. But my point does not
really need further explanation. I don't think you should be so quick to
dismiss the opinions of every other admin just because a few did not have
the time to pay attention. I agree that zucchini has been lax on the admin
side, I probably would have agreed with a delink. I do not agree with
doing it yourself as it was not an emergency.

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> I hope that you will not be part of a very long thread debating what
> I could or should have done in response to this (after the fact)
> despite the general silence when I DID ask what should be done, only
> to finish the thread off with some comment about how it is all drama
> that doesn't matter.
>


It does matter, it's still drama.



andy