Re: Dev questions

"Lee Lowder" <[email protected]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:59 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.network.irc.irssi.devel
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The Centro runs on Palm OS 5.0 Garnett,which is one of the reasons I chose
it over the last couple editions of Treo.

I did find an SSH client I can use, but it has a few issues, and is rather
slow and unresponsive,not sure of it is the client or the connection though.

I guess I will need to either get my Linux box back up, or leave my mactop
running during the day.

Thanks for the info, I explore some of those options and see what else I
might want to run local.  Maybe tf, or I may look into getting a better ssh
client hacked and ported over.

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Skywing <[email protected]>wrote:

>  My recommendation on using IRC/SILC from a mobile device, which may not
> be the answer that you were looking for, would be to run irssi from a
> dedicated location in screen, and connect in with an SSH client from your
> device.
>
>
>
> Personally, I find this to be a much better arrangement than running an irc
> client locally.  Packet processing work is done remotely (and I can leave
> irssi parked at the status screen when I am not looking at it), which means
> the data link doesn't wake up on every channel message, which is easier on
> your battery life.  Plus, you aren't going to be losing your link every time
> your phone gets restarted, you get on a plane, etc.  (This was particularly
> important for me, as my carrier deliberately drops data links after 24 hours
> of continuous connectivity, requiring a reconnect to the PPP link with a new
> IP address assigned (typically).  Your carrier may not have this issue,
> however.)
>
>
>
> If you go this route, you probably will want to turn off the clock in the
> irssi ncurses UI, as screen updates every minute would be bad on battery if
> you leave your SSH client habitually open.
>
>
>
> I don't know of a particularly good SSH client for PalmOS that might be
> suitable for this, but I hacked up the PocketPC (Windows Mobile) port of
> PuTTY to be suitable for my uses [auto-reconnect, bug fixes, some other
> various improvements to reduce various frequently re-occurring headaches].
> Probably not particularly easy to port to PalmOS (unless your Palm is of the
> Windows Mobile sort), though.
>
>
>
> This recommendation is a lil bit off-topic for the dev list at this point,
> though.  (Although the irssi dev list is pretty much dead as a doornail in
> recent months, anyway.)
>
>
>
> - S
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lee Lowder
> *Sent:* Friday, August 29, 2008 12:25 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Dev questions
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone had done any work on porting irssi to the Palm
> platform, and if not, if anyone would be interested.
>
>
>
> I've recently obtained a Palm Centro phone, and I have a data plan with my
> carrier and I have the Palm SDK.
>
>
>
> And since irssi (macirssi on my mactop) is the only IRC client I find to be
> worth using, I wanted to see if I could get it on my phone.
>
>
>
> I do have some dev experience, but not much specifically with Palm or with
> irssi, other than some scripts.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>

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<div dir="ltr"><div>The Centro runs on Palm OS 5.0 Garnett,which is one of the reasons I chose it over the last couple editions of Treo.</div>
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<div>I did find an SSH client I can use, but it has a few issues, and is rather slow and unresponsive,not sure of it is the client or the connection though.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I guess I will need to either get my Linux box back up, or leave my mactop running during the day.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks for the info, I explore some of those options and see what else I might want to run local.&nbsp; Maybe tf, or I may look into getting a better ssh client hacked and ported over.<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Skywing <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">My recommendation on using IRC/SILC from a mobile device, which may not be the answer that you were looking for, would be to run irssi from a dedicated location in screen, and connect in with an SSH client from your device.</span></p>

<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Personally, I find this to be a much better arrangement than running an irc client locally.&nbsp; Packet processing work is done remotely (and I can leave irssi parked at the status screen when I am not looking at it), which means the data link doesn't wake up on every channel message, which is easier on your battery life.&nbsp; Plus, you aren't going to be losing your link every time your phone gets restarted, you get on a plane, etc.&nbsp; (This was particularly important for me, as my carrier deliberately drops data links after 24 hours of continuous connectivity, requiring a reconnect to the PPP link with a new IP address assigned (typically).&nbsp; Your carrier may not have this issue, however.)</span></p>

<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">If you go this route, you probably will want to turn off the clock in the irssi ncurses UI, as screen updates every minute would be bad on battery if you leave your SSH client habitually open.</span></p>

<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">I don't know of a particularly good SSH client for PalmOS that might be suitable for this, but I hacked up the PocketPC (Windows Mobile) port of PuTTY to be suitable for my uses [auto-reconnect, bug fixes, some other various improvements to reduce various frequently re-occurring headaches].&nbsp; Probably not particularly easy to port to PalmOS (unless your Palm is of the Windows Mobile sort), though.</span></p>

<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">This recommendation is a lil bit off-topic for the dev list at this point, though.&nbsp; (Although the irssi dev list is pretty much dead as a doornail in recent months, anyway.)</span></p>

<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">- S</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee Lowder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 29, 2008 12:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Dev questions</span></p></div>
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<p>I was wondering if anyone had done any work on porting irssi to the Palm platform, and if not, if anyone would be interested.</p></div>
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<p>&nbsp;</p></div>
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<p>I&#39;ve recently obtained a Palm Centro phone, and I have a data plan with my carrier and I have the Palm SDK.</p></div>
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<p>&nbsp;</p></div>
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<p>And since irssi (macirssi on my mactop) is the only IRC client I find to be worth using, I wanted to see if I could get it on my phone.</p></div>
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<p>&nbsp;</p></div>
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<p>I do have some dev experience, but not much specifically with Palm or with irssi, other than some scripts.</p></div>
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<p>Thank you.</p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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