Re: Improving the WHOIS format

Dwayne Henderson <[email protected]> Sat, 14 Jan 2012 03:51:30 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.network.irc.irssi.user
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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:29 AM, David Romano <
[email protected]> wrote:

> "ought to be split apart" -- I take it you're a fan of Strunk & White. It's
> not a typographical error if it's intentional. Are you going to argue that
> everyone should write RADAR, LASER, PERL, and ARPA Net? Not everyone agrees
> with your English language prescriptions.
>

Radar, Laser, Perl and Arpa are all phonetical. IRC isn't.

Now, Strunk & White made a lot of mistakes:

http://chronicle.com/article/50-Years-of-Stupid-Grammar/25497/

But I guess it was intentional, so I guess it's okay.


>
> >    I also proposed changing "Cannot join to channel #test (You have
> joined
> >    to too many channels)", as it's misusing the word "to". Like Tabris
> >    pointed out, yes you can join one object to another, as in "join
> >    together". But a channel is not an object - you "join a club", "join a
> >    group of people".
> See my previous message.
>

>    Join X to a Y.
>    X is joined to a Y.
>    X is joined to too many Ys.
>

Or how about X joins Y.
X joined Y.
X has joined too many Ys.

Every man for himself though!


> >    Then there's the odd capitalization error, unnecessary abbreviation,
> >    inconsistent spelling and so on and so forth. But it's cool, I'll wait
> >    till Irssi gets on GitHub (if it ever gets on GitHub) and submit these
> >    changes myself, as opposed to arguing with a bunch of bigots who
> >    couldn't care less about typographic correctness in the first place.
> Since you seem to be handy with citing wikipedia, there's probably a page
> describing the terms "ad hominem" and "pedant": enjoy.
>

This Jake already dissed me on IRC calling me a pedant the first day I
joined this list. Ad hominem you say?


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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:29 AM, David Romano <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:david.romano%[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">david.ro=
[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im"><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


&quot;ought to be split apart&quot; -- I take it you&#39;re a fan of Strunk=
 &amp; White. It&#39;s<br>
not a typographical error if it&#39;s intentional. Are you going to argue t=
hat<br>
everyone should write RADAR, LASER, PERL, and ARPA Net? Not everyone agrees=
<br>
with your English language prescriptions.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Ra=
dar, Laser, Perl and Arpa are all phonetical. IRC isn&#39;t.<br><br>Now, St=
runk &amp; White made a lot of mistakes:<br><br><a href=3D"http://chronicle=
.com/article/50-Years-of-Stupid-Grammar/25497/" target=3D"_blank">http://ch=
ronicle.com/article/50-Years-of-Stupid-Grammar/25497/</a><br>



<br>But I guess it was intentional, so I guess it&#39;s okay.<br>=A0</div><=
div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt =
0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><br>
&gt; =A0 =A0I also proposed changing &quot;Cannot join to channel #test (Yo=
u have joined<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0to too many channels)&quot;, as it&#39;s misusing the word &quo=
t;to&quot;. Like Tabris<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0pointed out, yes you can join one object to another, as in &quo=
t;join<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0together&quot;. But a channel is not an object - you &quot;join=
 a club&quot;, &quot;join a<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0group of people&quot;.<br>
</div>See my previous message.<br></blockquote></div><div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
<br>
 =A0 =A0Join X to a Y.<br>
 =A0 =A0X is joined to a Y.<br>
 =A0 =A0X is joined to too many Ys.<br></blockquote><br>Or how about X join=
s Y.<br>X joined Y.<br>X has joined too many Ys.<br><br>Every man for himse=
lf though!<br><br></div><div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex">



<div><br>
&gt; =A0 =A0Then there&#39;s the odd capitalization error, unnecessary abbr=
eviation,<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0inconsistent spelling and so on and so forth. But it&#39;s cool=
, I&#39;ll wait<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0till Irssi gets on GitHub (if it ever gets on GitHub) and submi=
t these<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0changes myself, as opposed to arguing with a bunch of bigots wh=
o<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0couldn&#39;t care less about typographic correctness in the fir=
st place.<br>
</div>Since you seem to be handy with citing wikipedia, there&#39;s probabl=
y a page<br>
describing the terms &quot;ad hominem&quot; and &quot;pedant&quot;: enjoy.<=
br></blockquote></div><div><br>This Jake already dissed me on IRC calling m=
e a pedant the first day I joined this list. Ad hominem you say?<div class=
=3D"im">
<br><br>
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rebuild.com</a> <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%280%29208%20521%201040" value=3D"+4420=
85211040" target=3D"_blank">+44(0)208 521 1040</a> (<a href=3D"http://vimeo=
.com/wearebuild/videos" target=3D"_blank">Vimeo</a>)<br>

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