Re: Improving the WHOIS format
tabris <[email protected]> Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:46:05 -0800
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7B1F02B3544E109C63F7283D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/14/12 4:12 PM, Dwayne Henderson wrote: > Again, your New York State Journal quote is a proper use of "join to". > It'd be wrong saying "the toxine molecules join the receptors", > because they're objects attaching themselves to each other. > > You can't describe the relationship between yourself and a group > (which is what a channel is) as a joined-to one. By saying to "join to > a table", you're saying you're attaching yourself to a table > (physically, not emotionally), as in "I joined myself to the table > with superglue". Funny, as implemented in an ircd or services pkg, a channel is an object that has users associated with it. Hell, SELECT user.nick FROM chan JOIN chanuser ON (chan.chanid=3Dchanuser.chanid) JOIN user ON (chanuser.userid=3Duser.user= id) WHERE chan.name=3D"#irssi"; You're arguing over semantics, and then missing that there could be more than one interpretation of what a channel is. A channel is something that _contains_ a group of users. Don't mean it _is_ a group of users, but that might be a useful simplification. Personally, I might read "join to a channel" vs "join a channel" as an archaism. That and eventually you get used to reading English as written by persons who do not possess English as their first language. Plus there is "American English" and "British English" (or perhaps even "International English"). Due in large part to IRC, I have had friends from Britain, Wales, Singapore, Australia, India, and Pakistan. Some people from India speak better English than many Americans I know. --------------enig7B1F02B3544E109C63F7283D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8SIdIACgkQXNlttaeijWc6CACfTdddX0AmW9O0DyAUTn9m6I13 hmUAn10MwBRQViQw2Ri+nLBoJgvpyFwk =Jk8z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7B1F02B3544E109C63F7283D--