Re: Improving the WHOIS format

tabris <[email protected]> Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:46:05 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.network.irc.irssi.user
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On 1/14/12 4:12 PM, Dwayne Henderson wrote:
> Again, your New York State Journal quote is a proper use of "join to".
> It'd be wrong saying "the toxine molecules join the receptors",
> because they're objects attaching themselves to each other.
>
> You can't describe the relationship between yourself and a group
> (which is what a channel is) as a joined-to one. By saying to "join to
> a table", you're saying you're attaching yourself to a table
> (physically, not emotionally), as in "I joined myself to the table
> with superglue".

Funny, as implemented in an ircd or services pkg, a channel is an object
that has users associated with it.

Hell,

SELECT user.nick FROM chan JOIN chanuser ON
(chan.chanid=3Dchanuser.chanid) JOIN user ON (chanuser.userid=3Duser.user=
id)
WHERE chan.name=3D"#irssi";

You're arguing over semantics, and then missing that there could be more
than one interpretation of what a channel is. A channel is something
that _contains_ a group of users. Don't mean it _is_ a group of users,
but that might be a useful simplification.

Personally, I might read "join to a channel" vs "join a channel" as an
archaism. That and eventually you get used to reading English as written
by persons who do not possess English as their first language. Plus
there is "American English" and "British English" (or perhaps even
"International English").

Due in large part to IRC, I have had friends from Britain, Wales,
Singapore, Australia, India, and Pakistan. Some people from India speak
better English than many Americans I know.


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