Re: XEP-0333 - Chat Markers for MUC's
Dave Cridland <[email protected]> Fri, 13 Sep 2019 22:40:14 +0100
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--===============1580999809== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001e863e0592761a14" --0000000000001e863e0592761a14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 22:08, george b <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the quick response :-). > I read the xep and it sounds like what I was looking for. I tried it but > it doesn't work within the first test. I have to investigate more what's > going on there. > > A lot of clients use XEP-0184 instead, and many ignore both entirely from XEP-0045 chatrooms. > Best regards > Schorsch > > Am Fr., 13. Sept. 2019 um 21:02 Uhr schrieb Dave Cridland < > [email protected]>: > >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 19:27, george b <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I am struggling with chat markers in MUC's. >>> >>> In 1on1 chat, this works like expected: >>> >>> <message from=3D"[email protected]/shmoose" id=3D" >>> ce3f1534-ef71-4d6f-b699-661342ab4803" to=3D"[email protected]" type=3D"chat"= > >>> >>> <body>body</body> >>> >>> <markable xmlns=3D"urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0"></markable> >>> >>> </message> >>> >>> <message id=3D"33abcee5-7784-47eb-8841-14ba3e725d30" to=3D"aa@ >>> jabber-germany.de" from=3D"[email protected]/shmoose"> >>> >>> <displayed xmlns=3D"urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0" id=3D" >>> ce3f1534-ef71-4d6f-b699-661342ab4803"></displayed> >>> >>> </message> >>> >>> >>> But what is the 'to' address to answer the <markable> tag on MUC's? The >>> endclient didn't know the real jabber ID of the requesting room member.= I >>> tried sending the <displayed> tag to the room. Does not work. I tried t= o >>> send the <displayed> tag to the room with the members name as a resourc= e. >>> Does not work. >>> >>> >>> Does someone has a hint for me here? The description in the xep 0333 >>> does not help here (at least for me). >>> >>> >>> >> There are two options: >> >> * Send the marker to the entire room (XEP-0045=C2=A77.4). This means tha= t >> everyone sees when everyone reads the messages, which is a lot of >> information - and a lot of traffic. >> * Send the marker as a PM (XEP-0045=C2=A77.5). This means only the sende= r sees >> who has read their own messages - it's still a surprising amount of traf= fic >> though! >> >> Dave. >> _______________________________________________ >> JDev mailing list >> Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev >> Unsubscribe: [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ > JDev mailing list > Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > --0000000000001e863e0592761a14 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 22:08, george = b <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">scooterschorschi@gmail.= com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg= in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e= x"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks for the quick response :-).</div><div>I rea= d the xep and it sounds like what I was looking for. I tried it but it does= n't work within the first test. I have to investigate more what's g= oing on there.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>A= lot of clients use XEP-0184 instead, and many ignore both entirely from XE= P-0045 chatrooms.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad= ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div>Best regards</div><div>Scho= rsch<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class= =3D"gmail_attr">Am Fr., 13. Sept. 2019 um 21:02=C2=A0Uhr schrieb Dave Cridl= and <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">dave@cridlan= d.net</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0= px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><= div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 19:27, george b= <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">scoote= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo= te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204= );padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi</div><div><br></div><div>I am = struggling with chat markers in MUC's.</div><div><br></div><div>In 1on1= chat, this works like expected:<br></div><div><br></div><div> <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"><</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(17= 0,170,0)">message</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)"> </span><span st= yle=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,0)">from</span><span style=3D"color:= rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"aa</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,= 170,170)">@<a href=3D"http://jabber-germany.de/shmoose" target=3D"_blank">j= abber-germany.de/shmoose</a></span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">"= ; </span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,0)">id</span><span = style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600= ;color:rgb(0,170,170)">ce3f1534-ef71-4d6f-b699-661342ab4803</span><span sty= le=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">" </span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;colo= r:rgb(0,170,0)">to</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"</span= ><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,170)"><a href=3D"mailto:bb@= jabber.de" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a></span><span style=3D"color:rg= b(170,0,0)">" </span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,0)= ">type</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"</span><span style= =3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,170)">chat</span><span style=3D"color:r= gb(170,0,0)">"></span></p> <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"> <</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(1= 70,170,0)">body</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">>body</</spa= n><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(170,170,0)">body</span><span sty= le=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">></span></p> <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"></span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)"></span></p> <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"> <</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(1= 70,170,0)">markable</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)"> </span><span = style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,0)">xmlns</span><span style=3D"col= or:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(1= 70,0,0)">urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">&= quot;></</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(170,170,0)">m= arkable</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">></span></p> <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"></</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(1= 70,170,0)">message</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">></span></p>= <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"> </span></p><p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><sp= an style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)"><</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;c= olor:rgb(170,170,0)">message</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)"> </sp= an><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,0)">id</span><span style= =3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;colo= r:rgb(0,170,170)">33abcee5-7784-47eb-8841-14ba3e725d30</span><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)">" </span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb= (0,170,0)">to</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"aa</span><s= pan style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,170)">@<a href=3D"http://jabbe= r-germany.de" target=3D"_blank">jabber-germany.de</a></span><span style=3D"= color:rgb(170,0,0)">" </span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(= 0,170,0)">from</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"bb</span><= span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,170)">@<a href=3D"http://jabb= er.de/shmoose" target=3D"_blank">jabber.de/shmoose</a></span><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)">"></span></p> <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"> <</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(1= 70,170,0)">displayed</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)"> </span><span= style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,0)">xmlns</span><span style=3D"co= lor:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(= 170,0,0)">urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">= " </span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,170,0)">id</span><= span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">=3D"</span><span style=3D"font-weigh= t:600;color:rgb(0,170,170)">ce3f1534-ef71-4d6f-b699-661342ab4803</span><spa= n style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">"></</span><span style=3D"font-we= ight:600;color:rgb(170,170,0)">displayed</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170= ,0,0)">></span></p> <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"></</span><span style=3D"font-weight:600;color:rgb(1= 70,170,0)">message</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">></span></p>= <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)"><br></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;= white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)">But what is the &#= 39;to' address to answer the <markable> tag on MUC's? The end= client didn't know the real jabber ID of the requesting room member. I = tried sending the <displayed> tag to the room. Does not work. I tried= to send the <displayed> tag to the room with the members name as a r= esource. Does not work. <br></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0= px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D"color:rgb(170,0,0)"><br></span></p>= <p style=3D"margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D= "color:rgb(170,0,0)">Does someone has a hint for me here? The description i= n the xep 0333 does not help here (at least for me).</span></p><p style=3D"= margin:0px;text-indent:0px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></p></div></div></bloc= kquote><div><br></div><div>There are two options:</div><div><br></div><div>= * Send the marker to the entire room (XEP-0045=C2=A77.4). This means that e= veryone sees when everyone reads the messages, which is a lot of informatio= n - and a lot of traffic.</div><div>* Send the marker as a PM (XEP-0045=C2= =A77.5). This means only the sender sees who has read their own messages - = it's still a surprising amount of traffic though!</div><div><br></div><= div>Dave.</div></div></div> _______________________________________________<br> JDev mailing list<br> Info: <a href=3D"https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev" rel=3D"nore= ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev</a>= <br> Unsubscribe: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan= k">[email protected]</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> </blockquote></div> _______________________________________________<br> JDev mailing list<br> Info: <a href=3D"https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev" rel=3D"nore= ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev</a>= <br> Unsubscribe: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan= k">[email protected]</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> </blockquote></div></div> --0000000000001e863e0592761a14-- --===============1580999809== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ JDev mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [email protected] _______________________________________________ --===============1580999809==--