Re: Proposal: Add <no-notify/> hint to XEP-0334 (Message Processing Hints)

On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 at 20:21, Thilo Molitor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Does this even need a namespace bump if it only adds a new element, but does
> not alter existing ones?

Technically, yes. *Personally*, I don't feel strongly about this
because none of my implementations would break. However there are
several implementations of XMPP which actually depend somewhat on the
schema of a namespace remaining stable, and would reject elements that
don't conform to the schema. That schemas don't change is something we
reinforced as a community years ago when we adopted the practice of
namespace versioning.

> At least on apple there is something called focus mode that automatically
> silences every notification, but allows apps to break through focus mode.
> Maybe we should add another hint for urgent messages as well, that can be used
> by clients to break focus mode, aka:
> <urgent xmlns='urn:xmpp:hints'/>

As Philipp pointed out, this is definitely XEP-0224 which is already
implemented in a number of clients. Interestingly this new proposal is
essentially the opposite of XEP-0224 (a missed opportunity to include
it in that spec, too - as some kind of urgency=high/low).

Regards,
Matthew
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