Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Explicit Mentions

Hi,

Thats great to here that the intention is the same.

I dont think the text conveys that though.

> hint that the specified range of the content is being addressed to the specified occupant.

If i send

"@admins please ban this user"

and then mark "please ban this user" with begin/end, i would say i follow the XEP because i marked the content which is addressed to the admins.

Regards
Philipp

On Tue, Mar 10, 2026, at 19:06, Snit Guckfung via Standards wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 18:47:05 +0100
> Philipp Hörist <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Im a bit confused about begin/end
>> 
>> The XEP says
>> 
>> > If a mention element of type urn:xmpp:mentions:0 or its subtypes
>> > contains both begin and end attributes, the receiving entity MAY
>> > use this as a hint that the specified range of the content is being
>> > addressed to the specified occupant.  
>> 
>> I dont think this is necessary, as its usual that the content that
>> follows the mention is addressed to the mentioned user.
>> 
>> What was missing was that we can special format the nickname or the
>> @admin @all etc in the GUI when we receive a message, without
>> hardcoding some regex or scanning for nicknames.
>
> The 'begin' and 'end' attributes specify the range of the
> specially-formatted text. It is meant to be used to, for example,
> pillify text like "@room" or "@romeo". Note that there can be multiple
> mentions, and the content addressed to them isn't always what follows:
> "@romeo, have you seen @juliet?" has two mentions, with ranges
> specified for "@romeo" and "@juliet".
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