Re: Extending XEP-0313 with trimming support

On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 at 12:09, Marvin W. via Standards
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-03-31 at 11:59 +0100, Kevin Smith wrote:
> > I think Matthew’s change is doing this the right way for Stable -
> > Stable allows changes to the XEP as long as they’re
> > backwards/forwards compatible, which AFAICS Matthew’s proposal is.
>
> I don't disagree that it is formally correct and allowed to have this
> change in a Stable XEP, but I believe the feature in of itself is more
> of Experimental quality, meaning we might want to do changes to it that
> are not backwards-compatible. If we introduce it into a Stable XEP, we
> can't do that. I also fail to see the benefit of adding it to the
> existing XEP over creating a new one.
>
> After all, we intentionally have multiple XEPs and not one single
> specification with a lot of optional parts. Denoting the status of
> features within our specification set is one of the benefits we earn
> from doing so. Let's make good use of it.

I'm fine with this, if it's the consensus of the community/Council.

I agree we are far from "everything in one specification", but I think
there is a balance to strike between having every little feature in
individual XEPs, and having everything related to, say, archive
management, in one place. MUC is suffering from the effects of the
"small bolted on XEPs" approach right now, and it makes it a pain for
implementers to figure out what's what.

For me, this feature seemed small and backwards compatible, so it made
sense to include it in XEP-0313 because I feel like it fits. I agree
it would probably delay a transition to Final, but I don't see any
point in rushing that anyway (which is basically a dead-end state).

I'm just explaining my thought process - I don't feel strongly, and am
happy to submit it as a new XEP if everyone prefers that.

Regards,
Matthew
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