Re: Unmoderation/soft moderation

Philipp Hörist <[email protected]> Wed, 01 Apr 2026 15:06:12 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.network.jabber.standards-jig
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi,

Please also consider to expose the undo timeframe in disco.

Otherwise i see no big problem, in Gajim the implementation is already that moderation is just a flag on the message. The flag tells the GUI how to draw the message. On server side I would expect you could do the same.

I would assume a tombstone would only be set of the message is out of the undo timeframe.

I would expect that a server can announce with the undo timeframe, if moderation is soft.

Regard
Philipp

On Wed, Apr 1, 2026, at 14:42, Matthew Wild wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 at 13:24, Daniel Gultsch <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I sort of get your last use case with regards to reverting automated
>> moderation. I’m terrified of all the extra UI I have to built around
>> this. This basically means I have to build a moderation control center
>> into my app. I get that for a full fledged discord replacement / large
>> community chat platform we will need something like that. But if this
>> is our goal then there are so many other things that need to be
>> implemented first.
>
> I understand your concerns, but rest assured I'm aiming for something
> that doesn't require that level of UI (but doesn't forbid it either -
> as someone involved as owner/admin of many public channels, I'd be
> happy for a dedicated "moderation panel" client I could use,and I did
> start work on such a thing a few years ago).
>
> Protocol and implementation aside, showing "Undo moderation" on a
> moderated message seems like a natural thing that should exist,
> regardless of anything else. The difficulty is that in some cases
> permanent moderation is desired, such as when removing illegal
> content. I don't think the protocol for this should be too hard for
> the client, and the UI is just a menu item (which would replace the
> 'Moderate' menu item, if that's how it's implemented).
>
> If undo functionality exists, the automation is entirely server side,
> and shouldn't require anything extra on the clients.
>
> Regards,
> Matthew
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