Re: Fwd: [kitten] Call for adoption: draft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02 (Ends 2026-06-17)
Thilo Molitor <[email protected]> Mon, 22 Jun 2026 14:25:06 +0200
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--===============3375940308951968575== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----VKF3RBWMXB0IELWU2E7DCDBK4JMX45 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------VKF3RBWMXB0IELWU2E7DCDBK4JMX45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes,I'd like to implement that in Monal as soon as any servers support that= =2E -tmolitor Am 22=2E Juni 2026 13:36:02 MESZ schrieb Dave Cridland <dave@cridland=2Ene= t>: >Is there any interest in the XMPP community for an MCF-based SCRAM? > >If so, is there any interest in working on this within the Kitten IETF >Working Group? > >Dave=2E > >---------- Forwarded message --------- >From: Alexey Melnikov via Datatracker <noreply@ietf=2Eorg> >Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 at 16:19 >Subject: [kitten] Call for adoption: draft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02 (Ends >2026-06-17) >To: <kitten@ietf=2Eorg>, <kitten-chairs@ietf=2Eorg>, < >draft-bouchez-scram-mcf@ietf=2Eorg> > > >As some interest was expressed in this document, >this message starts a kitten WG Call for Adoption of: >draft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02=2E > >This Working Group Call for Adoption ends on 2026-06-17 > >Abstract: > This document specifies SCRAM-MCF, an extension to the Salted > Challenge Response Authentication Mechanism (SCRAM) family of SASL > mechanisms ([RFC5802]) and HTTP Digest extensions ([RFC7616], > [RFC7677])=2E > > The extension replaces the PBKDF2-specific iteration count attributes > i=3D and s=3D in the server-first-message with a generic Modular Crypt > Format (MCF) descriptor f=3D=2E This allows servers to use modern memo= ry- > hard key derivation functions such as Argon2, SCrypt, or bcrypt while > preserving the full security properties and message flow of SCRAM=2E > > The change is fully backward compatible: servers can continue sending > i=3D and s=3D for legacy clients and only send f=3D (or both) when the > client advertises support=2E > > This document is intended to be discussed and potentially adopted by > the KITTEN working group=2E Feedback from the KITTEN WG is welcome on > the kitten@ietf=2Eorg mailing list=2E > >Please reply to this message and indicate whether or not you support >adoption >of this Internet-Draft by the kitten WG=2E Comments to explain your prefe= rence >are greatly appreciated=2E Please reply to all recipients of this message= and >include this message in your response=2E > >Authors, and WG participants in general, are reminded of the Intellectual >Property Rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in BCP 79 [2]=2E >Appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the >provisions >of BCP 78 [1] and BCP 79 [2] must be filed, if you are aware of any=2E >Sanctions available for application to violators of IETF IPR Policy can b= e >found at [3]=2E > >Thank you=2E >[1] https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/bcp78/ >[2] https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/bcp79/ >[3] https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/rfc6701/ > >The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is: >https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/draft-bouchez-scram-mcf/ > >There is also an HTML version available at: >https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/archive/id/draft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02=2Ehtml > >A diff from the previous version is available at: >https://author-tools=2Eietf=2Eorg/iddiff?url2=3Ddraft-bouchez-scram-mcf-0= 2 > >_______________________________________________ >Kitten mailing list -- kitten@ietf=2Eorg >To unsubscribe send an email to kitten-leave@ietf=2Eorg ------VKF3RBWMXB0IELWU2E7DCDBK4JMX45 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div dir=3D"auto">Yes,I'd like to implement that i= n Monal as soon as any servers support that=2E<br><br>-tmolitor</div><br><b= r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto">Am 22=2E Juni 2026 13:36:02 = MESZ schrieb Dave Cridland <dave@cridland=2Enet>:</div><blockquote cl= ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px = solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div dir=3D"ltr">Is there any interest in the XMPP community for an MCF-ba= sed SCRAM?<div><br></div><div>If so, is there any interest in working on th= is within the Kitten IETF Working Group?</div><div><br></div><div>Dave=2E<b= r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla= ss=3D"gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong c= lass=3D"gmail_sendername" dir=3D"auto">Alexey Melnikov via Datatracker</str= ong> <span dir=3D"auto"><<a href=3D"mailto:noreply@ietf=2Eorg">noreply@i= etf=2Eorg</a>></span><br>Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 at 16:19<br>Subject: [kit= ten] Call for adoption: draft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02 (Ends 2026-06-17)<br>To= : <<a href=3D"mailto:kitten@ietf=2Eorg">kitten@ietf=2Eorg</a>>, <= ;<a href=3D"mailto:kitten-chairs@ietf=2Eorg">kitten-chairs@ietf=2Eorg</a>&g= t;, <<a href=3D"mailto:draft-bouchez-scram-mcf@ietf=2Eorg">draft-bouche= z-scram-mcf@ietf=2Eorg</a>><br></div><br><br>As some interest was expres= sed in this document,<br> this message starts a kitten WG Call for Adoption of:<br> draft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02=2E<br> <br> This Working Group Call for Adoption ends on 2026-06-17<br> <br> Abstract:<br> This document specifies SCRAM-MCF, an extension to the Salted= <br> Challenge Response Authentication Mechanism (SCRAM) family of= SASL<br> mechanisms ([RFC5802]) and HTTP Digest extensions ([RFC7616],= <br> [RFC7677])=2E<br> <br> The extension replaces the PBKDF2-specific iteration count at= tributes<br> i=3D and s=3D in the server-first-message with a generic Modu= lar Crypt<br> Format (MCF) descriptor f=3D=2E This allows servers to use mo= dern memory-<br> hard key derivation functions such as Argon2, SCrypt, or bcry= pt while<br> preserving the full security properties and message flow of S= CRAM=2E<br> <br> The change is fully backward compatible: servers can continue= sending<br> i=3D and s=3D for legacy clients and only send f=3D (or both)= when the<br> client advertises support=2E<br> <br> This document is intended to be discussed and potentially ado= pted by<br> the KITTEN working group=2E Feedback from the KITTEN WG= is welcome on<br> the <a href=3D"mailto:kitten@ietf=2Eorg" target=3D"_blank">ki= tten@ietf=2Eorg</a> mailing list=2E<br> <br> Please reply to this message and indicate whether or not you support adopt= ion<br> of this Internet-Draft by the kitten WG=2E Comments to explain your prefer= ence<br> are greatly appreciated=2E Please reply to all recipients of this message = and<br> include this message in your response=2E<br> <br> Authors, and WG participants in general, are reminded of the Intellectual<= br> Property Rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in BCP 79 [2]=2E<br= > Appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisi= ons<br> of BCP 78 [1] and BCP 79 [2] must be filed, if you are aware of any=2E<br> Sanctions available for application to violators of IETF IPR Policy can be= <br> found at [3]=2E<br> <br> Thank you=2E<br> [1] <a href=3D"https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/bcp78/" rel=3D"norefer= rer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/bcp78/</a><br> [2] <a href=3D"https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/bcp79/" rel=3D"norefer= rer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/bcp79/</a><br> [3] <a href=3D"https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/rfc6701/" rel=3D"noref= errer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/rfc6701/</a><= br> <br> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:<br> <a href=3D"https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/draft-bouchez-scram-mcf/" = rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker=2Eietf=2Eorg/doc/d= raft-bouchez-scram-mcf/</a><br> <br> There is also an HTML version available at:<br> <a href=3D"https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/archive/id/draft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02= =2Ehtml" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/arch= ive/id/draft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02=2Ehtml</a><br> <br> A diff from the previous version is available at:<br> <a href=3D"https://author-tools=2Eietf=2Eorg/iddiff?url2=3Ddraft-bouchez-s= cram-mcf-02" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://author-tools=2Eie= tf=2Eorg/iddiff?url2=3Ddraft-bouchez-scram-mcf-02</a><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Kitten mailing list -- <a href=3D"mailto:kitten@ietf=2Eorg" target=3D"_bla= nk">kitten@ietf=2Eorg</a><br> To unsubscribe send an email to <a href=3D"mailto:kitten-leave@ietf=2Eorg"= target=3D"_blank">kitten-leave@ietf=2Eorg</a><br> </div></div></div> </blockquote></div></body></html> ------VKF3RBWMXB0IELWU2E7DCDBK4JMX45-- --===============3375940308951968575== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] --===============3375940308951968575==--