Re: We should require AI disclosure

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Hi Goffi,

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have assumed. I'll do the survey myself.

Please do step back from this if you're near burn-out. It isn't that nobody
sees an issue. Others have said the concern is real, and so have I. We're
disagreeing about the mechanism. That argument can go on without you
carrying it.

Also: you've seen AI-assisted submissions and you're explicitly not calling
them slop. That's useful, and it suggests we have some time.

Kind regards,

  Guus

On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 12:27=E2=80=AFPM Goffi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Guus,
>
> Le mercredi 8 juillet 2026, 11:04:45 heure d=E2=80=99=C3=A9t=C3=A9 d=E2=
=80=99Europe centrale Guus
> der
> Kinderen a =C3=A9crit :
> > First, prior art. Goffi, you're the one with the most energy on this an=
d
> > you're seeing it from the Council side. Would you be willing to take th=
is
> > on?
>
> No I'm not. I'm already at the edge of burn-out and can't cope with
> anything
> more.
>
> Our editor/council chair said twice that he won't continue if we start to
> see
> too much AI slops in our inbox, and we do start to see submission made
> with AI
> (I don't qualify them as "slop" at all for the moment, but I already feel
> the
> AI impact).
>
> We regularly see FOSS projects and other organisations complaining about
> the
> wave a slop PRs.
>
> I think that this is a potential problem, and it's better to anticipate (
> I
> think the English  proverb is "better safe than sorry", but for this one =
I
> like more the French "Mieux vaut pr=C3=A9venir que gu=C3=A9rir").
>
> If nobody else see an issue there, so just let it be. I have neither the
> time
> nor the energy to fight in endless debates for a simple suggestion to
> disclose
> AI use.
>
>
> Best,
> Goffi_______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Goffi,</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m sorry, I s=
houldn&#39;t have assumed. I&#39;ll do the survey myself.<br><br>Please do =
step back from this if you&#39;re near burn-out. It isn&#39;t that nobody s=
ees an issue. Others have said the concern is real, and so have I. We&#39;r=
e disagreeing about the mechanism. That argument can go on without you carr=
ying it.<br><br>Also: you&#39;ve seen AI-assisted submissions and you&#39;r=
e explicitly not calling them slop. That&#39;s useful, and it suggests we h=
ave some time.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><=
div>=C2=A0 Guus</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contai=
ner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 12:27=E2=
=80=AFPM Goffi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Guu=
s,<br>
<br>
Le mercredi 8 juillet 2026, 11:04:45 heure d=E2=80=99=C3=A9t=C3=A9 d=E2=80=
=99Europe centrale Guus der <br>
Kinderen a =C3=A9crit :<br>
&gt; First, prior art. Goffi, you&#39;re the one with the most energy on th=
is and<br>
&gt; you&#39;re seeing it from the Council side. Would you be willing to ta=
ke this<br>
&gt; on?<br>
<br>
No I&#39;m not. I&#39;m already at the edge of burn-out and can&#39;t cope =
with anything <br>
more.<br>
<br>
Our editor/council chair said twice that he won&#39;t continue if we start =
to see <br>
too much AI slops in our inbox, and we do start to see submission made with=
 AI <br>
(I don&#39;t qualify them as &quot;slop&quot; at all for the moment, but I =
already feel the <br>
AI impact).<br>
<br>
We regularly see FOSS projects and other organisations complaining about th=
e <br>
wave a slop PRs.<br>
<br>
I think that this is a potential problem, and it&#39;s better to anticipate=
 ( I <br>
think the English=C2=A0 proverb is &quot;better safe than sorry&quot;, but =
for this one I <br>
like more the French &quot;Mieux vaut pr=C3=A9venir que gu=C3=A9rir&quot;).=
<br>
<br>
If nobody else see an issue there, so just let it be. I have neither the ti=
me <br>
nor the energy to fight in endless debates for a simple suggestion to discl=
ose <br>
AI use.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Goffi_______________________________________________<br>
Standards mailing list -- <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email protected]</a><br>
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 target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br>
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