Re: posts to gmane go missing

On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:35:05 +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:

> Am 17.08.2012 03:53, schrieb Thufir:
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:43:13 -0700, Thufir wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Pardon, where's the log to look at?
>> 
>> Ok, found it, I think:
> 
> Check your syslog daemon and configuration.
> 
> Note that there are various incarnations these days, such as traditional
> syslog, rsyslog, syslog-ng, possibly systemd - you need to know which
> one your computer is using, and check and possibly adjust its
> configuration (which is different between them).
> 
> Note also that some of the leafnode versions - you have not indicated
> which you are using - permit redirecting logs to stderr by means of
> running leafnode's programs with an "-e" option.  Note that no log files
> are written in this case, unless you redirect stderr (and possibly use
> the tee(1) utility).
> 
> Your leafnode(8) manual page will describe -e if it's supported.
> 
> HTH Matthias


I'll definitely look into syslog, however, I did do a test post to this 
particular group:


root@dur:~# 
root@dur:~# cat /var/spool/news/out.going/4008-1345926966-3 
From: Thufir <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: gmane
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support
References: <[email protected]>
	<8blqf9-31j.ln1-PMr6WvcbfrMsixrROztrfGobVMH0rjBs2LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org>
User-Agent: Pan/0.136 (I'm far too busy being delicious; GIT 926a150
	git://git.gnome.org/pan2)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Path: dur.bounceme.net!not-for-mail
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:36:06 -0700
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Ok, thank you.
root@dur:~# 
root@dur:~# fetchnews -Pvvv
leafnode 1.11.8: verbosity level is 3, debugmode is 0
try_lock(timeout=5), fqdn="dur.bounceme.net"
shawnews.vc.shawcable.net: connecting to port nntp...
shawnews.vc.shawcable.net: connected to 69.16.185.247:119, reply: 200
shawnews.vc.shawcable.net: connected.
shawnews.vc.shawcable.net: using STAT <message-ID> command.
shawnews.vc.shawcable.net: postarticles: file 4008-1345926966-3: 
only_groups_pcre excluded or server does not carry newsgroups 
gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support
shawnews.vc.shawcable.net: 0 articles posted.
shawnews.vc.shawcable.net: conversation completed, disconnected.
news.gmane.org: connecting to port nntp...
news.gmane.org: connected to 80.91.229.13:119, reply: 200
news.gmane.org: connected.
news.gmane.org: using STAT <message-ID> command.
news.gmane.org: postarticles: trying to post file 4008-1345926966-3 
Message-ID <[email protected]>
news.gmane.org: postarticles: POST of article 4008-1345926966-3 OK
news.gmane.org: 1 article posted.
news.gmane.org: conversation completed, disconnected.
news.gweep.ca: connecting to port nntp...
news.gweep.ca: connected to 206.55.71.10:119, reply: 200
news.gweep.ca: connected.
news.gweep.ca: using STAT <message-ID> command.
news.gweep.ca: 0 articles posted.
news.gweep.ca: conversation completed, disconnected.
root@dur:~# 



where gmane does, apparently, reply with "OK" and yet the post never 
makes it to the group.  The particular thread:  

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support/2578

If it was just this one group I would blame either the mailing list or 
gmane, but it's more systemic. Only some gmane groups silently eat my 
posts, other gmane groups work fine, and other servers work fine.  I'm 
subscribed to the DAR support group.

Is it reasonable to proceed thinking that gmane did in fact receive the 
above post and leafnode is working?


thanks,

Thufir