Re: torrent sharing

Alexander Lukyanov <[email protected]> Mon, 18 Sep 2017 03:28:24 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.network.lftp.user
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You can run the torrent in background to enter other commands. And BTW lftp
doesn't use threads.

On =D0=BF=D0=BD, 18 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82. 2017, 6:20 Stu Midgley <sdm90=
[email protected]> wrote:

> Morning
>
> Thanks for taking time with this.
>
> How do I type the jobs -vv in?  All the terminals are waiting in the
> torrent command (to receive the files)
>
> I also notice a LOT of DHT timeouts on almost every node I'm testing
> with...  some are to the dht-bootstrap, but most are to the other lftp
> torrent clients.
>
>
> ---- DHT node [172.16.250.22]:6881 has lost 2 packets
>
>
>
>
>
>                                                             initrd2
>
>
> **** DHT request get_peers to [172.16.250.22]:6881 timed out
>
> ---- DHT node [172.16.250.22]:6881 has lost 3 packets
>
>
>
>
>
>
> initrd2: dn:0 up:0
>
> **** DHT request find_node to [172.16.250.33]:6882 timed out
>
> ---- DHT node [172.16.250.33]:6882 has lost 1 packets
>
> **** DHT request find_node to [172.16.250.182]:6886 timed out
>
> ---- DHT node [172.16.250.182]:6886 has lost 1 packets
>
>
> Something is not right.  After quite some time (10+ minutes) clients
> suddenly start downloading the files and also seeding.  BUT it takes over
> 10 minutes to get into that state.  I feel their is a critical thread
> somewhere stuck and it eventually timeouts.
>
> Thanks
> Stuart.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Alexander Lukyanov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Try "jobs -vv" to see the peer status.
>>
>> On =D0=BF=D1=82, 15 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82. 2017, 8:15 Stu Midgley <sd=
[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> OK... getting further along.  It turns out that I had to delete the lft=
p
>>> cache so that the nodes didn't all have the same node_id (from ip addre=
ss
>>> 127.0.0.1).
>>>
>>> I now
>>>  * remove the tests for 172.16 ip addresses in both lftp and
>>> dht-bootstrap
>>>  * specify the torret:ip as the host ip
>>>  * delete the lftp cache (~/.cache/lftp)
>>>
>>> However, no data is transfered.
>>>
>>> On the client I get
>>>
>>> ---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers
>>> (1 seeds)
>>>
>>> ---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers
>>> (1 seeds)
>>>
>>> ---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers
>>> (1 seeds)
>>>
>>> ---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers
>>> (1 seeds)
>>>
>>> =E2=80=8BOn the server I get
>>>
>>> ---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers
>>> (0 seeds)
>>>
>>> ---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers
>>> (0 seeds)
>>>
>>> ---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers
>>> (0 seeds)
>>>
>>> ---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers
>>> (0 seeds)
>>>
>>>
>>> =E2=80=8BI can see the communication with the dht-bootstrap server and =
that
>>> looks good.
>>>
>>> I can also see the client and server sending each other dht get_peers
>>> and getting a response.
>>>
>>> Stu.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr Stuart Midgley
>>> [email protected]
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lftp mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://univ.uniyar.ac.ru/mailman/listinfo/lftp
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr Stuart Midgley
> [email protected]
>

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<p dir=3D"ltr">You can run the torrent in background to enter other command=
s. And BTW lftp doesn&#39;t use threads. </p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On =D0=BF=D0=BD, 18 =D1=81=
=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82. 2017, 6:20 Stu Midgley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sdm900@gma=
il.com">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"monospace, monospace">Morning<br><br>Th=
anks for taking time with this.<br><br>How do I type the jobs -vv in?=C2=A0=
 All the terminals are waiting in the torrent command (to receive the files=
)<br><br>I also notice a LOT of DHT timeouts on almost every node I&#39;m t=
esting with... =C2=A0some are to the dht-bootstrap, but most are to the oth=
er lftp torrent clients.</font><div class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default"><br><p style=3D"font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;font-s=
ize:10px;line-height:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-l=
igatures:no-common-ligatures">---- DHT node [172.16.250.22]:6881 has lost 2=
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=A0 =C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">**** DHT request get_peers to [172.16.250.22]:6881 timed out</span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- DHT node [172.16.250.22]:6881 has lost 3 packets=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
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=C2=A0 initrd2: dn:0 up:0=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">**** DHT request find_node to [172.16.250.33]:6882 timed out</span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- DHT node [172.16.250.33]:6882 has lost 1 packets</span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">**** DHT request find_node to [172.16.250.182]:6886 timed out</span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- DHT node [172.16.250.182]:6886 has lost 1 packets</span></p><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligature=
s:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace=
,monospace"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br>=
</span></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><span style=3D"=
font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">Something is not right.=C2=A0 A=
fter quite some time (10+ minutes) clients suddenly start downloading the f=
iles and also seeding.=C2=A0 BUT it takes over 10 minutes to get into that =
state.=C2=A0 I feel their is a critical thread somewhere stuck and it event=
ually timeouts.</span></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">=
<span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div=
><div style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><span style=3D"font-variant=
-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">Thanks</span></div><div style=3D"font-famil=
y:monospace,monospace"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-liga=
tures">Stuart.</span></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><=
span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><span style=3D"font-variant-=
ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-family:m=
onospace,monospace"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatur=
es"><br></span></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Alexander Lukyanov <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">lavv=
[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p di=
r=3D"ltr">Try &quot;jobs -vv&quot; to see the peer status.</p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"m_216036640677587257h5"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">On =D0=BF=D1=82, 15 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82. 2017, 8:15 St=
u Midgley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">sdm900@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div><div class=3D"m_216036640677587257h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">OK... getting fur=
ther along.=C2=A0 It turns out that I had to delete the lftp cache so that =
the nodes didn&#39;t all have the same node_id (from ip address 127.0.0.1).=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monos=
pace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace=
,monospace">I now=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:monospace,monospace">=C2=A0* remove the tests for 172.16 ip addresses i=
n both lftp and dht-bootstrap</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:monospace,monospace">=C2=A0* specify the torret:ip as the host ip=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace=
">=C2=A0* delete the lftp cache (~/.cache/lftp)</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">However, no data is =
transfered.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mo=
nospace,monospace">On the client I get</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><p style=3D"margin:0px;font-s=
ize:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=
=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A=
69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers (1 seeds)</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers (=
1 seeds)</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers (=
1 seeds)</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers (=
1 seeds)</span></p><div><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-lig=
atures"><br></span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">=E2=80=8BOn the serve=
r I get</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,mo=
nospace"><br></div><p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal=
;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:=
no-common-ligatures">---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 =
has 1 known peers (0 seeds)</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers (=
0 seeds)</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers (=
0 seeds)</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures=
">---- torrent B40B0E478CB94A69CE6A3E811744D09AA7F60D31 has 1 known peers (=
0 seeds)</span></p><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monosp=
ace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:monospace,monospace">=E2=80=8BI can see the communication with the dh=
t-bootstrap server and that looks good.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">I can also see the client an=
d server sending each other dht get_peers and getting a response.</div></di=
v></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">Stu.</div></div></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><d=
iv class=3D"m_216036640677587257m_4890084991115782970m_-5090400421848796137=
gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font face=3D"monospace, monospace">=
Dr Stuart Midgley<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email protected]</a></font></div></div></div>
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