RE: snmptranslate doesn't show full MIB-Tree on equal Systems

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        > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Hans Jørgen Jakobsen 
> Gesendet: Mo. 25.07.2016 12:47
> An: [email protected]
> Kopie: [email protected]
>,  , 
> Betreff: RE: snmptranslate doesn't show full MIB-Tree on equal Systems
>
> Found:
> hjj@xxx:~/snmptr % grep 'write(2, ' strace-80.txt
> write(2, "No log handling enabled - turnin"..., 52) = 52
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entPhysi"..., 94) = 94
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entPhysi"..., 96) = 96
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entPhysi"..., 94) = 94
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entPhysi"..., 98) = 98
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entityMa"..., 96) = 96
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entityLo"..., 97) = 97
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entityGe"..., 96) = 96
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entityPh"..., 98) = 98
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entityPh"..., 98) = 98
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (entityPh"..., 97) = 97
> hjj@new:~/snmptr % grep 'write(2, ' strace-81.txt
> write(2, "No log handling enabled - turnin"..., 52) = 52
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (ifGenera"..., 117) = 117
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (ifGenera"..., 117) = 117
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (ifGenera"..., 117) = 117
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (ifGenera"..., 117) = 117
> write(2, "Undefined OBJECT-GROUP (ifGenera"..., 117) = 117
> hjj@xxx:~/snmptr %
> So there are some error messages...

Yes I know, however I can't fix it.
My MIB files are all checked with MG-SOFT MIB Compiler, and the "undefined" objects are all in the MIB file.
I can not find any issue at these files.

I suppose that the different loading, of the MIB files could be the reason.
How you can see the error messages are different on "equal" machines.

Regarding your guesses:
Good questions, maybe I should ask any code writers?


Regards,
Venerable

>
> Below are some guesses made without code reading!
>
> For some reason DOCS-IF-M-CMTS-MIB is not read at all on "81". It's only 
> opened once to read mib module name.
> Why is it lost from the discovery of mibs in directory to the reading 
> phase?
>
> Could there be a table max on number of mib modules that can be handled?
>
> Your 2100+ mib modules seems high.
> Use and load of mibs could be another talk!
>
> /hjj
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2016, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I have done three thinks.
>>
>> 1st I have created a MIB-Tree on both machines and I have compared this files. (snmptranslate -m ALL -Pu
> -Tp)
>>     There are many OIDs different.
>>
>> So I have 2nd created the strace files on both machine with my TEST-OID "snmptranslate -m ALL -Pu
> -Of .1.3.6.1.4.1.4491.2.1.6.2.1.1"
>> And as you have assumed the sequence of the MIB files loading is totally different.
>> So I think that could be the issue. However I can't solve it with "mibs +" at snmp.conf,
>> because I have about 2000 MIB files for different manufactures.
>>
>> As 3rd I have build a new machine and if I can't believe it, snmptranslate translated me the full OID as
> on the first machine.
>>
>> If you like you can look at the attached files, maybe you find somewhat.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Venerable
>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Hans Jørgen Jakobsen
>>> Gesendet: Mi. 20.07.2016 14:05
>>> An: [email protected]
>>> ,  ,
>>> Betreff: Re: snmptranslate doesn't show full MIB-Tree on equal Systems
>>>
>>> I would try to run the program under truss(strace) looking for:
>>> a) which files are opened
>>> b) difference in sequence
>>> c) size of read..
>>>
>>> Even more desperate:
>>> A forgotten alias.
>>> A forgotten install of net-snmp in alternative path.
>>> Move binaries between machines and see if it makes diffrence.
>>> /hjj
>>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/15/16, [email protected] wrote
>>>>> What happens if you try it with mibReplaceWithLatest off? Found this:
>>>>> "
> target="_blank">https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E18752_01/html/816-5166/snmpcmd-1m.html
>>>>>> -PR > Replace MIB objects using the last read MIB file. The parser
>>>>> replaces MIB objects in its hierarchy whenever it sees a subidentifier
>>>>> and name match. > Caution - Setting this option might result in an incorrect
>>>>> hierarchy. Can be also set with the configuration token > mibReplaceWithLatest.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>> I have set it to "no" on both machines, no changes.
>>>> On Server1 no problems, on server2 the same problem as before.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to be really tricky.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Venerable
>>>> 2016-07-15 0:38 GMT+02:00 Lee :
>>>>       On 7/14/16, [email protected]  wrote:
>>>>      > Hi Hans,
>>>>      >
>>>>      > Thanks for reply.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > The MIB files on both machines are the same.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > I have compiled hundreds of MIB files and copied to both machines.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > The MIB files from the std packages, have I moved to my home directory
>>>>      > before.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > The snmp config files are all the same.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > I have also checked env, export and net-snmp-config, I can't find any
>>>>      > differences.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > My snmp.conf looks like:
>>>>      >
>>>>      > mibdirs /usr/share/mibs
>>>>      > mibs ALL
>>>>      > showMibErrors yes
>>>>      > strictCommentTerm yes
>>>>      > mibAllowUnderline yes
>>>>      > mibReplaceWithLatest yes
>>>>      > extendedIndex yes
>>>>
>>>>       What happens if you try it with mibReplaceWithLatest off?  Found this:
>>>>         "
> target="_blank">https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E18752_01/html/816-5166/snmpcmd-1m.html
>>>>
>>>>       -PR
>>>>           Replace MIB objects using the last read MIB file. The parser
>>>>       replaces MIB objects in its hierarchy whenever it sees a subidentifier
>>>>       and name match.
>>>>           Caution - Setting this option might result in an incorrect
>>>>       hierarchy. Can be also set with the configuration token
>>>>       mibReplaceWithLatest.
>>>>
>>>>       Regards,
>>>>       Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      > Thanks!
>>>>      >
>>>>      > Venerable
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>      >> Von: Hans Jørgen Jakobsen
>>>>      >> Gesendet: Di. 12.07.2016 18:50
>>>>      >> An: [email protected]
>>>>      >> Betreff: Re: snmptranslate doesn't show full MIB-Tree on equal Systems
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >> On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >>> For example:
>>>>      >>> If I use snmptranslate -m ALL -Pu -Of .1.3.6.1.4.1.4491.2.1.6.2.1.1
>>>>      >>> on Server1 then it translated me
>>>>      >>
>>> .iso.org.dod.internet.private.enterprises.cableLabs.clabProject.clabProjDocsis.docsIfMCmtsMib./
>>>>      >
>>>>      > docsIfMCmtsConformance.docsIfMCmtsCompliances.docsIfMCmtsCoreDeviceCompliance
>>>>      >>>
>>>>      >>> If I use the same command on Server2 then it translated me only
>>>>      >>>
>>>>      >>>
>>> .iso.org.dod.internet.private.enterprises.cableLabs.clabProject.clabProjDocsis.docsIfMCmtsMib.2.1.1
>>>>      >>>
>>>>      >>>
>>>>      >>> How can that be?
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >> Have you looked at what MIB files are present on both machines.
>>>>      >> How has the Docsis MIB files entered the machines. They are at least on
>>>>      >> my machines not part of std packages.
>>>>      >> Differences in enviroment variables or (snmp) config files?
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >> /hjj>
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht Ende-----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>>
>
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