Re: Acacia Internet Access Redirection

"Doug Parsons" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.nocat
Message-ID <005a01c4ac9a$03b87da0$7a01a8c0@ptslaptop>
Are the pages that are presented to the user by nocat viewable from the
Internet port??


In the claim section 1 and 13 both specify that the page served back to the
user must be available via the Internet.


Thoughts?

Doug


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Wright" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: [NoCat] Acacia Internet Access Redirection


> On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 16:25, John Keimel wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 08:00:44PM -0700, Jacob S. Barrett wrote:
> > > Today I received an information packet from Acacia Technologies Group
> > > informing me that I was in volation of their patent on "IAR" [1].  IAR
is a
> > > US Patent 6,226,677 [2].  That packet suggest that I must license
their
> > > technology or face legal action.  Has anyone else received this same
> > > extortion letter?
> > >
> > > The claims the the patent text lead me to believe they don't have much
to
> > > stand on.
>
> Jacob,
>
> of course they dont - they never do.
>
> The name of the game is *fear* and they will beat you if you play by
> their rules.  This the mode they are currently in  - troll for replies
> and see who bites.  Those who bite will Dont talk to them.  If you
> argue, they will play you, and they will push you to until you crack.
>
> Do NOT attend any meeting or answer any correspondence.
>
>
> >   If I read the abstract and claim one correctly then it doesn't
> > > cover a system that doesn't change the destination address.
>
> If that fact can be used to spin them off, they may abandon the chase
> early.  I doubt it tho.
>
>
> > I do recommend banding together with other people named in the suit and
> > trying to present a united front. I know it's very hard, especially
> > when a few bucks can just 'make the problem go away', which is what most
> > PHB's want.
>
> I disagree.  This is what they want you to do - all join together in one
> place.. a single shot will do the job then.  Contrast that line of
> thinking to "everyone go to ground, answer no correspondence, and in
> general, just dissappear."  They cant argue if you wont argue.  They
> know their claims are borderline - they need an admission or a voluntary
> payment.  Give them neither.
>
> The other part of the problem is unduly startling nocat users.  This is
> part of their game and will cause a large division among us if we let
> it.  I have seen a number of lists self-destruct under this pressure.
> Lets process it quickly and then get shod of it.
>
>
> Steve
>
>
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