Re: groups without any dots in the name don't show up

Jim Hague <[email protected]> Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:24:38 -0000 (GMT)
Newsgroups gmane.network.noffle.user
Organization The Bear Cave
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 23-Feb-2003 Miernik wrote:
> It's probably uncommon to have groups without any dot in the name, but 
> here is an example:
> 
> miernik@tarnica:~$ telnet news.linuxfromscratch.org 119
> Trying 66.11.168.23...
> Connected to linuxfromscratch.org.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 200 quasar.highos.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.3.3 ready (posting ok).
> list active
> 215 Newsgroups in form "group high low flags".
> control 0000000000 0000000001 n
> control.cancel 0000000045 0000000045 n
> control.checkgroups 0000000000 0000000001 n
> control.newgroup 0000000000 0000000001 n
> control.rmgroup 0000000000 0000000001 n
> junk 0000000000 0000000001 n

All these groups are INN 'internal use' groups.

> cgroup 0000000138 0000000138 y

Not sure about this one.

> links-list 0000002462 0000002445 y

Or this, but it looks possibly legitimate. Re-reading the relevant section of
the latest version of the IEFT draft intended to replace RFC1036, it says:

5.5.1.  Forbidden newsgroup-names
                                                                                
   The following forms of newsgroup-name MUST NOT be used except for the
   specific purposes indicated:
                                                                                
     o Newsgroup-names having only one component. These are reserved for
       newsgroups whose propagation is restricted to a single host or
       local network, and for pseudo-newsgroups such as "poster" (which
       has special meaning in the Followup-To-header - see section 6.7),
       "junk" (often used by serving agents), and "control" (likewise);
     o Any newsgroup-name beginning with "control." (used as pseudo-
       newsgroups by many serving agents);
     o Any newsgroup-name containing the component "ctl" (likewise);
     o "to" or any newsgroup-name beginning with "to." (reserved for the
       ihave/sendme protocol described in section 7.4, and for test
       messages sent on an essentially point-to-point basis);
     o Any newsgroup-name beginning with "example." (reserved for
       examples in this and other standards);
     o Any newsgroup-name containing the component "all" (because this
       is used as a wildcard in some implementations).
                                                                                
   A newsgroup-name SHOULD NOT appear more than once in the Newsgroups-
   header.  The order of newsgroup-names in the Newsgroups-header is not
   significant, except for determining which moderator to send the
   article to if more than one of the groups is moderated (see 8.2).

I think Noffle *should* allow you to create a single-component newsgroup
locally, but shouldn't allow you to retrieve a single-component newsgroup from
another server. I'll try and get round to doing this in CVS.

-- 
Jim Hague - [email protected] (Work), [email protected] (Play)
Never trust a computer you can't lift or you don't control.


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