Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for Cisco router with Full BGP Route

Gert Doering via cisco-nsp <[email protected]> Wed, 5 Mar 2025 13:01:10 +0100

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Hi,

On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 06:52:08PM +1000, Ted Pelas Johansson via cisco-nsp wrote:
> > Well... if you compare the Arista boxes to Cisco PayG (like the NCS 5700),
> > you pay the same price for the Arista as for the first 3 ports on Cisco, and
> > get the remaining 37 for free...
> 
> That's normally the result you would get from comparing apples and pears... A modular chassis will never be cheaper than a fixed box, regardless of vendor.

The NCS-57C3 is only half-modular, and is a good comparison to the 7280R3
as it's the same forwarding hardware awith the smame .

So, for the *list* price of a full 7280R3, including all licenses, and
including the 8x100G ports, you can get a *naked* NCS5700, with full
"large customer discount", with no 100G ports, and not licensed to do
anything...

Call it apple-vs-oranges, I call it "48 x 1/10/25G + 8x 100G forwarding
engine with a Jericho2+ chip".

I do grant that the NCS has 2 SUPs, so if you need that, the Arista is
not for you - but if you add the license costs for the first 8x 100G 
throughput (which is a hard requirement, as much as "pay as you go"...)
the NCS 57C3 is already more expensive than 2x 7280R3 list price.  So,
full chassis redundancy :-)

(Of course there's a discount on the Arista list price as well, which
makes the price difference even more ridiculous... and the NCS75 is
what Cisco considers a "low cost" platform - which is true, if compared
with the ASR990x series...)

gert
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