Re: [j-nsp] Thanks for all the fish

Tom Beecher via juniper-nsp <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.nsp.juniper
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>
> In our hubris to "decouple the control plane from the data plane (tm)",
> we, instead, decoupled the software/hardware integration from a single
> vendor.
>

I wouldn't necessarily agree that was the wrong *technical* decision.
Unfortunately, it was a perfect scenario to be exploited for the
MBA-ification of everything that has greatly expanded in the past decade.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 2:24 AM Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On 1/10/24 09:04, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> > I find it frustrating that things one would expect to be included in
> > any layer 3 switch has become additional revenue opportunities.
> >
> > "The switch hardware is $x.  Oh you want the software too?  Oh,
> > that's an additional cost.   L3 switching?  Oh,  that's an extra
> > feature.  OSPF? Oh that's not included with the L3 license so that
> > will be extra too. Oh and by the way,  you aren't buying a perpetual
> > license anymore so be sure to pay us the fees for all the software
> > functionality every year".
> >
> > Yes I know the above isn't completely 100% accurate but it definitely
> > is how it seems anymore.
> >
> > I get charging extra for advanced features,  but when basic features
> > that pretty much everyone wants and uses becomes an add-on and not
> > perpetual,  it tends to make me start looking for a different vendor.
>
> In our hubris to "decouple the control plane from the data plane (tm)",
> we, instead, decoupled the software/hardware integration from a single
> vendor.
>
> So hardware folk make their own cut, and software folk make their own
> cut. And they are not the same people.
>
> Welcome to the "white box" and "software-only" era.
>
> Mark.
>
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