Re: CIM for CMDB?

Hello Kirk,

thank you for your reply.

This definitetly helps me a little further. Profiles for certain use 
cases. I will take a closer look at them and maybe come back later with 
questions. ;)

Thanks and regards

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Am 10.05.2012 19:20, schrieb Kirk Augustin:
> Hi Timo,
>
> The problem with the CIM schema is that it is so huge.
> It has to contain everything for everyone.
> But they figured out a way to make it easier to read and understand.
> It has been broken up into smaller "profiles".
> These profiles are just suggest subsets for certain anticipated use models.
> But by looking at them, you can much more easily understand intended
> interactions.
> What you are trying to do with CMDB is all in there.
> I am just not sure which profile to suggest.
> Most likely you will end up using more than 1.
> But here is the list of suggested profiles.
> http://dmtf.org/standards/profiles
> Maybe with more detailed discussion, someone here will be able help
> narrow it down better for you.
> Kirk Augustin
> 11821 NW McNamee Rd
> Portland, OR 97231
>
> HM: 503-289-4356
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Timo Veith <[email protected]>
>     *To:* [email protected]
>     *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:59 AM
>     *Subject:* CIM for CMDB?
>
>     Hello dear list readers,
>
>     I am new on this list and am searching for some advice. The mailing
>     list is probably not exactly the right place to ask the following
>     but I hope I may get some advice or some pointers where to go from
>     here and read further on.
>
>     The systems department of the data center at the university where I
>     work strives to introduce a holistic monitoring system. Every
>     service and it's components - be it physical or logical - as well as
>     the relationship to other services and their components shall be
>     recorded, changes tracked and the whole thing beeing visualised. The
>     aim is to have a tool or a solution that allows to enter and edit
>     the relevant data, as well as to show a recent map of the
>     dependencies between those items. With ITIL part of this called a
>     CMDB, I would say it's a database with a frontend to enter and view
>     your stuff and certain amount of interfaces allowing you to update
>     the changes that are being done in your infrastructure.
>     Later on, we want to connect this CMDB to a monitoring software such
>     as Nagios or Shinken.
>
>     As far as I have searched and read docs about this topic the Common
>     Information Model (CIM) should be a great data model to describe the
>     CIs and their relations and eventually save them to a database. But
>     I haven't found such a solution, yet. At least none that is based on
>     an open source License and is using CIM as the data model in the
>     database.
>
>     Do you know of any CMDB that uses CIM as the database schema? This
>     relates to Relational DBs but maybe there are other products that
>     solve this with a NoSQL DB or an object oriented DB respectively.
>
>     In the beginning of this project, I thought I could just start by
>     describing e.g. a mail server infrastructure with a self invented
>     XML derivative. As I was hacking the first lines, I felt like
>     reinventing the wheel and thus googled around searching for XML
>     Schema files that already describe the base for what I was doing.
>     That's how I came to CIM. I downloaded all XSD files of CIM and
>     skimmed over them. Overwhelmed by the mass of stuff, I scratched my
>     head and found my self lost.
>
>     I also skimmed through the CIM tutorial. It is some kind of
>     explanatory but I find it not to be not much like a real tutorial.
>     Probably I missunderstood the whole thing somehow. But I thought
>     that if I read it, I would not only get a basic understanding of CIM
>     but also see and learn some examples so I could continue writing my
>     own XML files using conforming to CIM.
>
>     The CIM Tool (http://wiki.cimtool.org/index.html) seems coming close
>     to this but it more relates to messages not to a CMDB
>
>
>     Well, this message is very long already and I could even write more,
>     but I will first wait and see if anyone of you answers to me.
>
>     Kind regards and thank you in advance
>
>