Re: [opennic-discuss] [PROPOSAL] Invalidate previous vote; eliminate other forms of voting

"Daniel Quintiliani" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.opennic.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Then I'm on board with having this vote, and we can put this ugliness behind us. Counted votes with results have been published already to the list, so there's no need for a second round of any kind. IIRC the mandatory discussion period was 7 days from the original, so it must be put for vote on August 7, 2018 or later.

I am still going to use the "no troll/attack votes" proposal (I will rename this "Opinions and allegations in proposals"), with the two corrections, which is yea/nay. I believe it is helpful in general to remove such material from the actual proposals. I agree that in the future we look towards a pre-written code of conduct and modifying it for OpenNIC proposals and the OpenNIC mailing list.

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-Dan Q

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:34:15 -0500, Jonah Aragon <[email protected]> wrote:

> If this is what it takes for everybody to be happy and I can stop thinking about these proposals, I’d be happy to adopt your changes here.
> 
> Jonah
> 
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Per our discussion in this and other threads about proposals vs. personal attacks and allegations of fraud, I would like to propose the following alternative which does not mention my name or include such allegations and attacks:
> > 
> > Subject: [VOTE] Invalidate previous vote; eliminate other forms of voting
> > 
> > 1. The proposal entitled "Reintroduction of past proposals", including all associated votes, (re)counts, and results, is declared null and void.
> > 2. The proposal entitled "Reintroduction of past proposals, IR, R1", including all associated votes, (re)counts, and results, is declared null and void.
> > 3. The method in which the votes for the above proposals were counted are hereby declared invalid for the above two proposals and shall not be used for future proposals.
> > 4. All votes in the future should be a simple “Aye/Yes” vs “Nay/No” style of voting.
> > 
> > This vote shall be done in "Aye/Yes" and "Nay/No" style.
> > 
> > These rules shall take effect two days after the votes have been counted and the results have been published to the mailing list.
> > 
> > ^^ I think it takes care of the actual procedural end of things without accusations or personal attacks against myself. Jonah, will you accept this for the vote, or do you have changes to suggest?
> > 
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> > 
> > -Dan Q
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 23:05:03 -0500, Jonah Aragon, OpenNIC Core Team <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> I would like to invalidate the results of Daniel Q’s previous vote, which was counted in a manner inconsistent with normal “instant runoff voting” procedure. As he won’t permit a sane recount by other community members including myself, the vote and all future related votes being conducted with the same voting procedure should be considered misleading and invalid.
> >> 
> >> Furthermore, I’d like to mandate that all votes in the future should be a simple “Aye/Yes” vs “Nay/No” style of voting, to avoid any such confusion again.
> >> 
> >> This proposal will be voted on as soon as legally permissible.
> >> 
> >> Jonah
> >> 
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