[opennic-discuss] Why not just ask? [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Opinions and allegations in proposals]

Good morning,

On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 12:27 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> Your vote is worthless unless I can understand it.

I must stress here that you are of no authority to declare the worth of
any, including my, vote.

As per Verax's suggestion[0] I would ask you to keep the voting thread
clear of any comments.

Please also note that your statement is invalid as per the very proposal
you asked to confirm by this voting[1]:
        "Condemns an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or
        actions,"

See a also full quote of your text below.


> I'm not paying a translator to figure it out.

Why not do what is obvious instead of finding harsh words: asking me?

You could have asked me, or any speaker of German you trust, both
off-list (even off-e-mail such as on IRC) or in a separate thread for a
commented translation of my vote.



> On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 06:27:31 +0000, Philipp Schafft <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > On Wed, 2018-08-08 at 20:28 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> > > Voting starts: 8/9/2018 0030 UTC
> > > Voting ends: 8/16/2018 0030 UTC
> > > 
> > > OpenNIC proposals shall not contain, in full or in part, language which:
> > > 
> > > * Praises an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
> > > * Condemns an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
> > > * Makes allegations of unethical or illegal activity by an OpenNIC member, unless confirmed by a court of law, and/or
> > > * Criticizes or comments on a proposal or vote, past or present, whether passed or failed, in which an OpenNIC member is criticized on basis of their character or actions.
> > > 
> > > The proposal shall take effect immediately after passing.
> > > 
> > > These rules are only applicable to proposals put up for vote, not to mailing list or IRC discussion.
> > 
> > My vote is:
> >         Wer von seinen Ängsten geleitet wird, wird die Schönheit des
> >         Tages nicht erkennen.
> > 

[0] Verax <[email protected]>, Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:00:30 -0400,
    <[email protected]>,
    in "Re: [opennic-discuss] [PROPOSAL] Require voting in English"

[1] Actually "Criticizes or comments on [...] vote, [...] in which an
    OpenNIC member is criticized on basis of their character or
    actions." is much stronger. However this is not what you meant
    when you wrote your text. "vote" can mean both, the process of
    voting, and the individual vote by a person this this context.
    It just demonstrates how unqualified this proposal is.

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)



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