Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS][MISSCOUNT] Invalidate previous votes
Megan Parat <[email protected]>
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A *possible* reasoning for the proposer not to vote would be that they want to ask for the community's opinion, while not giving any (reinforced) bias: "What do you guys think of this?" vs. "I really think we should do it this way, any objections?". This example is grossly exaggerated. As Sebastian pointed out, their vote was counted once. Counting spoiled votes might lead to none of the options reaching absolute majority. It shows that there isn't a general consensus and that people are unhappy. Compare a vote count with 40% spoiled, 40% A and 20% B with the same results, but without the spoiled votes: 67% A and 33% B. Megan. On 08/15/2018 02:17 AM, Jonah Aragon wrote: > This is a democracy, the original proposer can vote as they please. Like I mentioned in Discord, the proposer not voting would be like the president not voting on Election Day. Ridiculous. > > Also it looks like your count has the same outcome, I’m not sure what the deal is. Additionally, you have two “spoiled” votes by the same person in your count, that’s especially incorrect. > > Jonah > >> On Aug 14, 2018, at 4:44 AM, Philipp Schafft <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Good morning, >> >>> On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 22:12 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote: >>> Results: >>> >>> Yes: >>> >>> Daniel Quintiliani >>> Katie Holly >>> Alex Hanselka >>> vv >>> Grant Baron >>> Jack Ternan >>> sy >>> gp >>> Megan Parat >>> Jacob Bachmeyer >>> >>> No: >>> >>> Christopher >>> >>> Passed 10-1. >>> Effective as of August 16, 2018. >> I count differently. I must insist on someone else doing a third >> counting. >> >> (Also I VERY STRONGLY consider the counting by the proposer a bad thing >> and IN NO EVENT trustworthy. Counting of voices MUST be done by someone >> independent.) >> >> I count: >> No: >> * Christopher <[email protected]> >> >> Spoiled: >> * Amunak <[email protected]> >> * Sebastian Makowiecki <[email protected]> in >> <[email protected]> >> * Sebastian Makowiecki <[email protected]> in >> <[email protected]> >> * Philipp Schafft <[email protected]> >> >> Yes: >> * Jacob Bachmeyer <[email protected]> >> * Megan Parat <[email protected]> >> * [email protected] >> * sy <[email protected]> >> * Jack Ternan <[email protected]> >> * [email protected] >> * Grant Baron <[email protected]> >> * Alex Hanselka <[email protected]> >> * Katie Holly <[email protected]> >> * Daniel Quintiliani <[email protected]> Proposer! >> >> No: 1, Spoiled: 3, Yes: 10 >> Total votes: 14. >> >> No: 1/14 = ~7.14%, Spoiled: 3/14 = ~21.43%, Yes: 10/14 = ~71.43% >> >> 'Yes' would pass. >> >> >> I must also note here that I personally feel that who proposes should >> not vote at all or vote invalid. It's a matter of kindness and honor. >> And also often enforced by voting rules. >> >> With best regards, >> >> -- >> Philipp. >> (Rah of PH2) >> >> >> -------- >> You are a member of the OpenNIC Discuss list. >> You may unsubscribe by emailing [email protected] > > > > -------- > You are a member of the OpenNIC Discuss list. > You may unsubscribe by emailing [email protected] -------- You are a member of the OpenNIC Discuss list. You may unsubscribe by emailing [email protected]