Re: [opennic-discuss] [RECOUNT] Opinions and allegations in proposals

Good morning,

On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 20:35 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> Apologies, Niles' vote got detached from the thread because he at first sent it to me directly by accident. The result is the same.
> 
> Yes:
>  
> Daniel Quintiliani
>  
> No:
>  
> Amunak
> Megan Parat
> Dennis Emory Hannon
> Verax
> Niles Rogoff
> 
> Write-ins:
>  
> Philipp Schafft: "Wer von seinen Ängsten geleitet wird, wird die Schönheit des
> Tages nicht erkennen."
>  
> kevin: "Ki a félelmei irányítják, nem ismerik fel a nap
> szépségét."
> 
> Yes: 1
> No: 5
> Write in "Wer...": 1
> Write in "Ki...": 1
> 
> This proposal failed to pass with 1-5.


> All write-ins have been listed in this post, so no need to troll.

Then why do you troll by not counting votes?

I have not submitted a write-in, I have voted invalid as made clearly by
me writing "My vote is:".

What is your problem with just counting votes as they are?

Not counting votes you don't like is not the way voting works. Why not
also just not count "no"-votes? Or votes made between 07:03 UTC and
14:23 UTC?

Voting means to count *all* votes.

With people having told you this before I hardly see any other way than
calling this active vote rigging by you. Something that, in a real
democracy, would invalidate the voting entirely.

Sadly OpenNIC seems to not stand for democracy as it used to before. It
used to be one of the main pillars of OpenNIC and was often referred to
as what gives OpenNIC it's legitimation over e.g. ICANN. If this pillar
is destroyed I see the value of OpenNIC itself being destroyed and it's
legitimation to exist with it.

With best regards,


> 
> --
> 
> -Dan Q
> 
> 
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:30:37 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel Quintiliani" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:28:01 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel Quintiliani" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Voting starts: 8/9/2018 0030 UTC
> > > Voting ends: 8/16/2018 0030 UTC
> > > 
> > > OpenNIC proposals shall not contain, in full or in part, language which:
> > > 
> > > * Praises an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
> > > * Condemns an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
> > > * Makes allegations of unethical or illegal activity by an OpenNIC member, unless confirmed by a court of law, and/or
> > > * Criticizes or comments on a proposal or vote, past or present, whether passed or failed, in which an OpenNIC member is criticized on basis of their character or actions.
> > > 
> > > The proposal shall take effect immediately after passing.
> > > 
> > > These rules are only applicable to proposals put up for vote, not to mailing list or IRC discussion.

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)



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