Re: [opennic-discuss] [FurNIC] New news article

So we agree then. Good. :)

~ Ole


On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:49:33 -0400 (EDT)
"Daniel Quintiliani" <[email protected]> wrote:

> As you can see from such examples as:
> 
> What is the current situation of earths atmosphere?
> What is the current economic situation of Nigeria?
> What is the current situation in palestine?
> What is the current situation on same-sex marriage?
> Current situation in Australia for badminton?
> 
> "Given OpenNIC's current situation" would appear to an
> English speaker as commenting on OpenNIC's stability,
> status, or membership, as opposed to "Given ongoing
> discussions at OpenNIC"
> 
> --
> 
> -Dan Q
> 
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:21:51 -0700, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > That is a pretty big stretch, and going pretty far
> > in reading something into what is plain English.
> > 
> > "Current" and "situation" are normal and simple
> > words. If there is some specific context then
> > that could be a reference, but by itself those
> > words don't have any special meaning.
> > 
> > See here:
> > http://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_current_situation_mean
> > 
> > We're getting into ESL territory here. :)
> > 
> > Regards,
> >         Ole
> > 
> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 20:49:41 -0400 (EDT)
> > "Daniel Quintiliani" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >   
> > > You've never heard of a business or charity use
> > > "current situation" when dealing with problems on the
> > > board or a money issue?
> > > 
> > > I don't believe there's any conspiracy going on right
> > > now, just juvenile trolling and people whining.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > -Dan Q
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 18:15:25 -0600, Jeff Taylor
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > As a U.S. citizen, I can only say that the only
> > > > time I have heard "current situation" used to imply
> > > > an instability would be in the conspiracy threads on
> > > > reddit, which is obviously a regional implication.
> > > > Since we are dealing with a world-wide audience
> > > > pretty much everyone here limits their speech to
> > > > the most common meanings of such words without
> > > > attempting to imply any sub-text.  You are jumping
> > > > to the conclusion of a non-standard definition of
> > > > the words, so it makes me wonder if you are
> > > > attempting to imply that there is in fact a
> > > > conspiracy here.  If so, why would you think that
> > > > from a general news blurb?  If not, then why are
> > > > you trying to lead others to think there is a
> > > > conspiracy?
> > > > 
> > > > On 08/20/2018 06:04 PM, Daniel Quintiliani
> > > > wrote:    
> > > > > "Current situation" usually implies instability of
> > > > > some sort, as if a business is about to shut down
> > > > > due to lack of funds.
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably half of the "trolling" going on right
> > > > > now is because of the differences between users'
> > > > > *native* languages, rather than the languages
> > > > > used on the mailing list. As another user pointed
> > > > > out, a for-German-eyes-only post about me used
> > > > > phrases which Google translated as nonsense with
> > > > > words like "round" "quick shot" and with "Mr.
> > > > > Quintiliani" and "demolition" in the same
> > > > > sentence. A German speaker, I forget who, pointed
> > > > > out that these are literal translations of German
> > > > > expressions which do not imply death threats.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > -Dan Q
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 17:54:02 -0600, Jeff Taylor
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:   
> > > > >> "OpenNIC's current situation" means this is the
> > > > >> way things are at the moment.  The news article
> > > > >> basically states that FurNIC is being redefined
> > > > >> as a 'peer' to opennic since this is technically
> > > > >> what they have really been for a number of
> > > > >> years.  It doesn't change the relationship
> > > > >> between opennic and furnic, it simply changes
> > > > >> the wording to more clearly identify it as what
> > > > >> it really is.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> However all of this should have been understood
> > > > >> from the news article, despite it being obvious
> > > > >> that English is not their first language.  Did
> > > > >> you read the article before commenting?  Do you
> > > > >> need help reading the English language?  You
> > > > >> seem to have a lot to say in English on the
> > > > >> mailing list so I don't understand why you are
> > > > >> having an issue understanding what is being
> > > > >> written here, however if you need someone to
> > > > >> help you interpret the text being discussed then
> > > > >> perhaps we can help you?  Otherwise, what
> > > > >> exactly are you trying to ask since the answer
> > > > >> you were given apparently did not answer the
> > > > >> question you thought you were asking?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 08/20/2018 03:34 PM, Daniel Quintiliani
> > > > >> wrote:    
> > > > >>> So what's "OpenNIC's current situation" then?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -Dan Q
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 20:25:10 +0000, Philipp
> > > > >>> Schafft <[email protected]> wrote:   
> > > > >>>> Good afternoon,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 16:05 -0400, Daniel
> > > > >>>> Quintiliani wrote:    
> > > > >>>>> May I ask what "OpenNIC's current situation"
> > > > >>>>> is? Is it "democracy" or do you just not like
> > > > >>>>> certain people on the list including
> > > > >>>>> myself?    
> > > > >>>> The managers of the FurNIC released a news
> > > > >>>> article that's only intention is to clarify
> > > > >>>> the relation between OpenNIC and FurNIC as
> > > > >>>> there has been confusion in the past. That's
> > > > >>>> what it is. Nothing else.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> With best regards,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
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