Re: [opennic-discuss] Download list of actual Tier1+tier2 OpenNIC server with script

Jeff Taylor <[email protected]> Thu, 10 Jan 2019 15:19:26 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.network.opennic.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Sorry for the late reply, but I'm the one who builds the root zone which 
includes the EmerDNS info.  To begin, here is the information we are 
putting in our root zone:

bazar.          3600    IN      NS      seed1.emercoin.com.
bazar.          3600    IN      NS      seed2.emercoin.com.
coin.           3600    IN      NS      seed1.emercoin.com.
coin.           3600    IN      NS      seed2.emercoin.com.
emc.            3600    IN      NS      seed1.emercoin.com.
emc.            3600    IN      NS      seed2.emercoin.com.
lib.            3600    IN      NS      seed1.emercoin.com.
lib.            3600    IN      NS      seed2.emercoin.com.

Obviously that provides global access to users as well as bots. Over the 
years we've developed some methods of dealing with bots, but nothing is 
perfect.

One method would be to share your zone file with a few known opennic T1 
servers, who could then make the information available to everyone using 
opennic.  This would halt the load on your DNS servers, but bots would 
still be able to reach your domains.

We do have an ACL file available that lists the public T1 and T2 servers 
(and you can also parse this info from dig commands), however any 
queries for an EmerDNS domain would still be passed along to your 
servers with the original requestor's IP address intact, so you would 
effectively be filtering everyone.

We also implement whitelisting, where users have to register their IP 
address in order to make use of some of the T2 servers.  This 
information is also available through the ACL file and may be the best 
option here, but it means that anyone wanting to use EmerDNS domains 
would be required to register their IP, and a lot of security-conscious 
folks are reluctant to do that.

I think that about covers what we have to work with, but let me know if 
you have any further questions.



On 01/04/2019 02:53 PM, Oleg Khovayko wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I represent EmerDNS, we have successful peering with OpenNIC for 
> years. Currently, our sites {seed1,seed2}.emercoin.com provide to the 
> OpenNIC dns answers to support this peering. Unfortunately, I see many 
> request from the world directly to our seeds from many IPs, other tahn 
> OpenNIC. I assume, some botnets using them.
>
> I would like add firewall rules to our DNS gateways, just to restrict 
> access to your Tier1+Tier2 servers only. With this solution, we'll 
> provide DNS-answers to OpenNIC only. Of course, we already created 
> this "whitelist" manually, just from your WEB-pages: 
> https://servers.opennicproject.org
>
> I have question: Is there exist way to download this list from script 
> as text file, just to use in automatic system to auto-setup firewall 
> rules?
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> Thanks in advance,
>
> Oleg
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