Re: [Proftpd-devel] Aging state of ProFTPD Project infrastructure
[email protected] Tue, 7 Apr 2026 13:53:57 -0400
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--===============8062732384007319400== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8_64188178.1775584437399" ------=_Part_8_64188178.1775584437399 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey! I would like to offer free hosting to the proftpd project and also sysadmin= maintenance time. Tell me what you need and I will provide it. I would also be willing to help with the migration. I have co-located server in Equinix Sofia, but I do live in Montreal Canada= , where I also have enough storage and compute to host many projects. ASN200450 Marian Marinov Best regards, Marian P.S. I have been using proftpd for more than 25y now! I'll be really happy = if I can help more to the project! Apr 7, 2026 12:30:38 TJ Saunders <[email protected]>: > As many of you are aware, the state of the ProFTPD Project's infrastructu= re is in desperate need of maintenance/upgrading.=C2=A0 The VMs which host = the project's website, Bugzilla instance, forums, FTP downloads, etc are al= l quite old -- this is why, for example, the website, Bugzilla, forums curr= ently do not have great HTTPS support.=C2=A0 (The underlying VM image has a= n OpenSSL package which predates TLSv1.2, among other things.) >=20 > These VMs are currently running in a provider's network, which has been q= uite generous in allowing these to run.=C2=A0 However, that provider has go= ne through different company acquisitions; the fact that the VMs are still = running is, honestly, more by luck than by intention.=C2=A0 Now, the curren= t company has indicated that these VMs _will_ be shut down by September of = this year, if not sooner. >=20 > I know that maintaining infrastructure, in my spare time, is not very app= ealing -- I have to do it too much already for my day job.=C2=A0 No excuses= , just commenting on why nothing really has been done on this front.=C2=A0 = But now we have a forcing function. >=20 > The project core team has discussed this situation.=C2=A0 Right now, we a= re leaning toward shutting down the website, Bugzilla, and forums, and rely= ing on the existing GitHub repo for most needs.=C2=A0 Most bug reports/issu= es are already filed there, and there have been no significant forums posti= ngs for more than a year now.=C2=A0 Most modern browsers are unhappy about = the plain HTTP website, and update the lack of TLSv1.2 certificates for the= forums. >=20 > This all demonstrates that GitHub meets most of the project needs with re= gard to infrastructure.=C2=A0 It also means fewer moving parts for future m= aintainers of the project to maintain, going forward. >=20 > With this in mind, I'd like to solicit your thoughts/feedback on what sor= t of things you'd want to see in the GitHub repo (if anything), knowing tha= t these changes are coming.=C2=A0 Feel free to respond to me personally if = you prefer. >=20 > I don't have any particular dates/times when we'll shut those VMs down (o= ther than before September), but it'll be happening this year, one way or a= nother. >=20 > Cheers, > TJ >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ProFTPD Developers List > <[email protected]> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/proftp-devel ------=_Part_8_64188178.1775584437399 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"> </head> <body> <span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Hey!</span> <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">I would like to offer free hosting to the proftpd project and also sysadmin maintenance time. </span> <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Tell me what you need and I will provide it. </span> <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">I would also be willing to help with the migration.</span> <br> <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">I have co-located server in Equinix Sofia, but I do live in Montreal Canada, where I also have enough storage and compute to host many projects. </span> <br> <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">ASN200450 Marian Marinov</span> <br> <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Best regards,</span> <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Marian</span> <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">P.S. I have been using proftpd for more than 25y now! I'll be really happy if I can help more to the project!</span> <br> <div class="fairemail_quote"> <div dir="ltr"> <p>Apr 7, 2026 12:30:38 TJ Saunders <[email protected]>:</p> </div> <blockquote style="margin:0;border-left:3px solid #ccc; padding-left:10px;"> <div> As many of you are aware, the state of the ProFTPD Project's infrastructure is in desperate need of maintenance/upgrading. The VMs which host the project's website, Bugzilla instance, forums, FTP downloads, etc are all quite old -- this is why, for example, the website, Bugzilla, forums currently do not have great HTTPS support. (The underlying VM image has an OpenSSL package which predates TLSv1.2, among other things.) <br> <br> These VMs are currently running in a provider's network, which has been quite generous in allowing these to run. However, that provider has gone through different company acquisitions; the fact that the VMs are still running is, honestly, more by luck than by intention. Now, the current company has indicated that these VMs _will_ be shut down by September of this year, if not sooner. <br> <br> I know that maintaining infrastructure, in my spare time, is not very appealing -- I have to do it too much already for my day job. No excuses, just commenting on why nothing really has been done on this front. But now we have a forcing function. <br> <br> The project core team has discussed this situation. Right now, we are leaning toward shutting down the website, Bugzilla, and forums, and relying on the existing GitHub repo for most needs. Most bug reports/issues are already filed there, and there have been no significant forums postings for more than a year now. Most modern browsers are unhappy about the plain HTTP website, and update the lack of TLSv1.2 certificates for the forums. <br> <br> This all demonstrates that GitHub meets most of the project needs with regard to infrastructure. It also means fewer moving parts for future maintainers of the project to maintain, going forward. <br> <br> With this in mind, I'd like to solicit your thoughts/feedback on what sort of things you'd want to see in the GitHub repo (if anything), knowing that these changes are coming. Feel free to respond to me personally if you prefer. <br> <br> I don't have any particular dates/times when we'll shut those VMs down (other than before September), but it'll be happening this year, one way or another. <br> <br> Cheers, <br> TJ <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________ <br> ProFTPD Developers List <br> <[email protected]> <br> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/proftp-devel <br> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html> ------=_Part_8_64188178.1775584437399-- --===============8062732384007319400== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --===============8062732384007319400== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline