RE: AW: Differentiated Routing, not only plain rambo-SPF

> I am sorry, but there is no signalling (like RSVP, RSVP-TE,=20
> CR-LDP) for doing DiffRout.

 My mistake here.. But diffrout has few goals in common with
the RPIs *BANANAS* traffic engineering framework but sometimes
complimentary too. The best suggestion might be ..why cant=20
you come up with some very rough draft version.So that, we=20
can be clear that we are discussing the same scheme. I have=20
one picture of diffrout, some others think that as diffser-TE=20
and so , it is better if we have some notes before discussion.

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> Based on the information exchanged by the routing protocol=20
> (like OSPF) all nodes should be able to
> compute the same smallest size tree which interconnects the=20
> edge routers (those with attached users or attached external=20
> interfaces), and which complies to some specific constraints=20
> (QoS/BW/Policy,eventually avoiding overlaps with other=20
> road systems),and which are associated to the same DSCP(s). =20
> // plural: see my  previous email from today
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> But there is no signalling as to "establish the=20
> DSCP-associated road system" !!!
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> However,it would be a fancy but completely new task to=20
> determine and establish an MPLS-road system,
> which may lock MPLS-traffic into such slim Smallest Size Tree=20
> graphs. See all my work on establishing
> the "road systems for VPNs" based on elementary+ hierarchical LSPs.
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> Heinrich
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> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Ayyasamy, Senthilkumar (UMKC-Student) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. August 2002 16:40
> An: Naidu, Venkata; Hummel Heinrich; Manfredi, Albert E
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Betreff: RE: AW: Differentiated Routing, not only plain rambo-SPF
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> > -> yes,it is similar;
> > -> but here it is about state-less IP forwarding, i.e. about=20
> > -> forwarding the individual IP packets, without any
> > -> RSVP path and without any MPLS path.
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> >   Oh! Ok...you would like to do Crankback in
> >   connection less IP environments?!?
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> >   In such a case, you might find below paper interesting:
> > http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivkuma/research/papers/te-
> > latest.pdf
>  I have studied this paper. Your are mis-interpreting here. The RPI
> paper is an increment to OSPF or BGP for some traffic engineering
> functionalties. It doesnt require signaling whereas, diffrout=20
> requires signaling. Also, we are taking more from a diffserv=20
> point of view.
>  As i told, routing in peer to peer networks and some overlay=20
> systems can use diffrout concept. We can explore certain non-
> cooperative algorithms for an alternative to SPF. But as mentioned
> before, this will not work out if we see from an engineering=20
> perspective.=20
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> >   There was some discussion in E2E list regarding
> >   pros & cons of this approach. I couldn't find the URL
> >   but I vaguely remember that the subject of the discussion
> >   is "EC++N" or something like that...
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