Re: How to un-dash-subscribe--really!

Mike Erdely <[email protected]> Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:20:38 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.network.ssh.windows
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Adam's post won't make it to the list (he unsubscribed), but mine
will...

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 02:56:11PM -0400, Dawson, Adam wrote:
> Well, you could say I was immediately able to unsubscribe.  But if you
> consider the 3  attached messages, you'll see that my request was
> processed something like 9 months after I first asked to be
> unsubscribed.  Not too bad of an accomplishment, all in all.  Some
> people conceived and birthed children; I got myself off a mailing list.

Congrats.  It took you 9 moths to learn to follow directions.

> You shouldn't feel too bad about yourself, though.  You've managed to
> keep up at least the same level of service as the FTC, which hasn't even
> acknowledged, much less addressed, the deluge of messages I've been
> forwarding them from erdelynet for nine months.   So..I'll let you know
> if they have an IT job open.  Might be a great fit.  

Feel bad about myself.  Right.
FTC?  Yeah.  They care about a mailing list that you voluntarily signed
up for but cannot figure out how to unsubscribe.  And, emailing
[email protected] would have been way too complicated.

Hell, for all I know, your IP address may have previously been
blacklisted because you're a spammer.

> Speaking of, you should check out the British sitcom called "The IT
> Crowd."  Very fitting today, not to mention hilarious.  It's like "The
> Office" for IT folk.  I think you can see some of it on youtube.

...

> At any rate, glad it's working now.  I'll quit cluttering up your
> members' mailboxes with my messages.  It's been real, everyone.
> Apologies for the mailbox junk.  Toodeloo.
> 
> From: Keith A. Glass [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:16 PM
> To: [email protected]; Mike Erdely
> Cc: Dawson, Adam
> Subject: Re: How to un-dash-subscribe--really!
> 
> Sarcasm is a dying art form.  OTOH, yelling at one's list-members does
> not generally endear them to you, Mike  (evil grin)

This guy (Keith Glass) is currently greylisted.  I haven't seen this
message yet.  While it is not my intention to be a jerk, I have no
obligation to take abuse from or to endear myself to people using up
my resources for their benefit.  I offer this mailing list for you to
use for free.  If you run into problems unsubscribing from the list,
I'll happily refund you 100% of what you paid.

> Keith 
> 
> Security Geek * Curmudgeon at Large * Short on Sleep 
> 
> On Tue Mar 11 14:07 , Mike Erdely sent:
> 
> Wow. And *immediately* after sending this message, you were magically
> able to unsubscribe.
> 
> Absentee admin, huh? Anyone who requests to be unsubscribed is almost
> immediately taken care of.
> 
> And, sending email to [email protected]
> <javascript:top.opencompose('[email protected]','','','')>  is
> so difficult. I
> just tested the process myself... No problems.
> 
> How the hell are you even able to use ssh?
> 
> -ME
> 
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Dawson, Adam wrote:
<idiocy snipped>
> 
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:09:17 -0400
> From: "Dawson, Adam" <[email protected]>
> Subject: FW: Location changes in registry not reflected in SFTP
> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> 	[email protected], [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]

I never received this message.
Clearly "unsubscribe@" is wrong...  But, there was nothing done
intentionally to prevent you from getting off the list.  You were
probably blacklisted for some reason.

>  What do I need to do to get off of this list?  I have tried sending
> email to the unsubscribe address at least twice, with no results.
> 
> Look at these best practices from spam.org.
> # Do include a working unsubscribe link or email address on all emails.
> # Do immediately honor unsubscribe requests.
> 
> Ideally, you should include a ONE-CLICK opt out.

mailto:[email protected] (one-click opt out)
I have NO obligation to honor anything.  You opted-in.

> Thanks.
> 
<more garbage snipped>

> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:46:56 -0400
> From: "Dawson, Adam" <[email protected]>
> Subject: unsubscribe
> To: [email protected]
> 
> i have tried this before.  please unsubscribe me.

> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:05:55 -0400
> From: "Dawson, Adam" <[email protected]>
> Subject: unsubscribe
> To: [email protected]
> 
> please


Again... these messages did not make it to the server.  Either that or
you ignored the follow up requiring you to confirm your request.

-ME

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