Administrivia: Spam Prevention Measures (Was: Thank You!)
Mike Erdely <[email protected]> Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:03:52 -0400
| Newsgroups | gmane.network.ssh.windows |
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| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
Note: If you are having trouble unsubscribing and you cannot contact me via email (for whatever reason), look at the bottom of this message for a "WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS" method of getting a hold of me. On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:33:54AM -0400, Alan Vinh wrote: > Anyone putting up a service to help others while expecting nothing in > return is doing the community a great service. Please keep up the good > work Mike and THANK YOU for maintaining this list. > To unsubscribe is easy enough, there is no need for harsh words - just > leave quietly! > Regards - Alan Guys... Thanks for the kind words. I've thought, a couple times, about shutting the mailing list down since most of the chatter is about SSH on Windows and I hardly use Windows for anything anymore. But, each time that happens I see more activity on the list, so I decide to leave it up. It's really not an administrative burden and I'm very glad you guys find this helpful. In Adam's defense, it seems that he attempted to correctly unsubscribe from the list, but never received the confirmation email. Instead of calmly trying to handle the situation, he became hostile and reported me to the FTC. I guess he assumed that I was either an "absentee admin" (his words) or I was intentionally trying to spam him. Neither, of course, are the case here. Fighting spam takes a ridiculous amount of my time. I employ several methods of preventing the delivery of spam to this list and to the mailboxes on my server. Among these are blacklisting and greylisting. With blacklisting, I use several methods to obtain lists of known spammers and tarpit those hosts. (See OpenBSD's spamd http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/?query=spamd for more info) If you have having problems sending emails to this list, the list manager (to un/subscribe) or me, perhaps your server landed on a blacklist. With greylisting, if my server hasn't recently "talked" to your server, your server gets a temporary failure message. If your server retries in 30 minutes (the standard), your message will be accepted. Many large email providers use broken methods to deliver mail. They use a pool of SMTP servers that rotate on retries. Since greylisting uses the IP address of the sending server (along with the sender email address and the recipient email address) to determine when a message should be delayed or delivered and these pools use different IP addresses for each host, it is theoretically possible that the message NEVER gets delivered if the pool doesn't retry with the same IP address within the timeout period. For large known providers, I make an effort to whitelist their pools, but not all providers make that information easily accessible. Usually the downside to greylisting is that your message takes ~30 minutes to be delivered. It sucks when I place an online food order and don't get the confirmation email for ~30 minutes (and their system ate the order and we assumed it was on the way). WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS: If you are trying to contact me and my server is simply not receiving your messages, go to http://erdelynet.com/ and pick some post to my website and leave a comment. Comments are moderated and I'm a clever guy and should be able to figure out that you don't actually mean for that comment to be made public. But if you're concerned that I may not understand, put in the comment that you tried to email me and it didn't work, please don't publish this comment, ... Also, note the new footer. Thanks for listening. And, please discuss SSH. -ME -- List Info: http://erdelynet.com/ssh-l/ List Archives: http://erdelynet.com/archive/ssh-l/ To Unsubscribe: Mail mailto:[email protected] If you are having trouble unsubscribing, visit the List Info page for help.