Re: Loss of ability to use Stunnel-Blat, and a solution

Yeah, I totally agree with you better, it would ne nice.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Peter Pentchev <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 09:15:39AM +0200, Flo Rance wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Click on your avatar, then Google Account, then Sign-In & Security. At
> the
> > bottom of the page, there's "Allow less secure apps".
> >
> > You can't choose which app is a less secure app, because this option may
> be
> > understood as "re-enabling Basic Authentication" which means "plain-text
> > password authentication".
> >
> > By default, Gmail only allows Oauth authentication.
>
> <off-topic rant... SCNR>
>
> Yeah, well, wouldn't it be nice if only we had a system that would allow
> us to grant (possibly limited) access to specific applications by, say,
> issuing them a little authentication something that they could present
> to the authorities... we might even call it a "ticket"... but of course,
> not everything with access should be able to issue tickets, so we may
> have a ticket-granting ticket and a normal access ticket...
>
> ...yeah, wouldn't it be nice...
>
> </rant>
>
> Sometimes I do feel like an old-timer...
>
> G'luck,
> Peter
>
> > Regards,
> > Flo
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:55 PM, Roger Bohl <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Early in 2018, around the time when I upgraded my system to Windows 10,
> > > the Stunnel and Blat files that had worked fine with my Vista PC would
> not
> > > work with the new PC.  However, the "bug" turned out to be unrelated
> to the
> > > change in operating systems, but rather an "upgrade" to Gmail:
> > > Coincidentally, about that time, Gmail evidently decided to stop
> accepting
> > > e-mails from apps deemed "a less secure app", including Stunnel-Blat,
> with
> > > Blat then displaying messages:
> > >
> > > *** Warning ***  The SMTP server did not accept Auth PLAIN value.
> > > *** Warning ***  Are your login userid and password correct?
> > > *** Warning ***  The SMTP server did not accept Auth LOGIN PASSWD
> value.
> > >
> > > Only a failure message sent to my "backup e-mail address" led me to
> > > explore this as a possible cause for what I had thought was, but
> turned out
> > > not to be, a Stunnel-Blat problem.  Gmail has an option to suppress
> this
> > > heightened security feature, and when I activated this option, my
> > > Stunnel-Blat tools immediately began to function as intended.
> > >
> > >
> > > While I was at first able to enable Gmail to "Allow access from "less
> > > secure accounts," I have been unable to get through Gmail options
> > > consistently to turn this on and off and share this info with others.
> (I
> > > would welcome instructions that work consistently.)
> > >
> > > I would also welcome guidance on how to include Stunnel-Blat as a
> specific
> > > alllowed app, without having to enable Gmail to enable *all* "less
> secure
> > > apps"
> > >
> > > Roger Bohl
>
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