Re: stunnel-users Digest, Vol 181, Issue 3
"Eric Eberhard" <[email protected]> Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:13:04 -0700
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No. If it ain=E2=80=99t broke, don=E2=80=99t fix it! Old saying but =
still relevant. The continual updates in all modern software may fix =
something =E2=80=93 and another broken. IMO. I know I am a minority on =
this this group but an old tried and true setup has great value. =
Experience, reduces updates and adds to stability. We don=E2=80=99t =
change our code unless we must. We think it is more stable. =
Don=E2=80=99t listen to me if you are the type that must have every =
update ASAP Listen to me if you don=E2=80=99t need the latest and =
greatest and your app works properly. Study the new version and make a =
plan to move forward when the time is right. We often move forward to =
the previous stable release. Often months or even a year later. If =
the improvements are for things you don=E2=80=99t use, put them off.
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Look at exactly what the release notes say to help you decide if the =
update is worth it, you might find it improves only functionality you =
don=E2=80=99t use. It saves time and money and does not introduce new =
bugs. =20
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We use a very unpopular method =E2=80=93 we use inetd. This releases =
you from all the server management code which is very very very hard to =
make work on all systems as they work so differently. We are on IBM =
with AIX (Unix). I doubt a lot of people are testing that =
configuration.
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Stunnel is very good at not requiring you to update one step at a time! =
You can skip safely.
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Enough blather. I am sure there are a lot of people that disagree with =
me. And they are likely correct in certain situations. We suggest you =
look at your situation and and see if you can skip releases =E2=80=A6
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All opinion, not fact. I am old-school so keep that in mind!
Good Luck,
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Eric
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From: Brent Kimberley [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 8:16 AM
To: [email protected]; Eric Eberhard <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [stunnel-users] stunnel-users Digest, Vol 181, Issue 3
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Have you tried RFC8410?
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On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 04:00:43 p.m. EDT, Eric Eberhard =
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:=20
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<snip>We use similar logic with one stunnel and have millions of =
transactions daily... [4+10+1 mil XML+web calls]. <snip>R
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>No.=C2=A0 If it ain=E2=80=99t broke, don=E2=80=99t fix it!=C2=A0 Old =
saying but still relevant.=C2=A0 The continual updates in all modern =
software may fix something =E2=80=93 and another broken.=C2=A0 =
IMO.=C2=A0 I know I am a minority on this this group but an old tried =
=C2=A0and true setup has great value.=C2=A0 Experience, reduces updates =
and adds to stability.=C2=A0 We don=E2=80=99t change our code unless we =
must.=C2=A0 We think it is more stable.=C2=A0 Don=E2=80=99t listen to me =
if you are the type that must have every update ASAP=C2=A0 Listen to me =
if you don=E2=80=99t need the latest=C2=A0 and greatest and your app =
works properly.=C2=A0 Study the new version and make a plan to move =
forward when the time is right.=C2=A0 We often move forward to the =
previous stable release.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Often months or even a year =
later.=C2=A0 If the improvements are for things you don=E2=80=99t use, =
put them off.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Look at exactly what the release notes say to help you decide if the =
update is worth it, you might find it improves only functionality you =
don=E2=80=99t use.=C2=A0 It saves time and money and does not introduce =
new bugs.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>We use a very unpopular method =E2=80=93 we use inetd.=C2=A0 This =
releases you from all the server management code which is very very very =
hard to make work on all systems as they work so differently.=C2=A0 We =
are on IBM with AIX (Unix).=C2=A0 I doubt a lot of people are testing =
that configuration.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Stunnel is very good at not requiring you to update one step at a =
time!=C2=A0 You can skip safely.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Enough blather.=C2=A0 I am sure there are a lot of people that disagree =
with me.=C2=A0 And they are likely correct in certain situations.=C2=A0 =
We suggest you look at your situation and and see if you can skip =
releases =E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>All opinion, not fact.=C2=A0 I am old-school so keep that in =
mind!<br><br>Good Luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Brent Kimberley [mailto:[email protected]] <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, August 28, 2019 8:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email protected]; Eric Eberhard =
<[email protected]><br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email protected]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[stunnel-users] stunnel-users Digest, Vol 181, Issue =
3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Have you tried =
RFC8410?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 04:00:43 p.m. EDT, Eric Eberhard <<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><snip>We use similar logic with one stunnel and have millions of =
transactions daily... [4+10+1 mil XML+web calls]. =
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