Re: site-wide metadata [was: RFC: myPublicFeeds.opml]
"Dave Winer" <dave-rH/ioLL7x7RWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
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| Organization | Berkman Center, Harvard Law School |
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Mark, 1. I work at Harvard, not UserLand. And I just work there, I can't make them do anything in particular. 2. The train left the station on this with robots.txt. The world survived. Sorry, I noticed. I wasn't supposed to, I guess, but I did. 3. Instead of impeding growth, it would be great if the W3C did things to foster growth, like declare one top-level name to be reserved, and then establish a web app to reserve names within that folder. It would take a weekend to write and deploy. I'll help. 4.Further, only optional functionality should depend on these names, nothing mission critical (as previous applications have done). That's about all I want to say on this. I've noticed how much effort one has to put in to innovate here. This mail list is broken. Sorry, I forgot. ;-> Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Nottingham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [syndication] site-wide metadata [was: RFC: myPublicFeeds.opml] > > On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 08:37 AM, Dave Winer wrote: > > > BTW, I didn't break any W3C edict by placing a myPublicFeeds.opml at > > the top > > level of my site. In fact, TBL went out of his way to say this was my > > right. > > And it's Yahoo's right to create a file with the same name in the same > > location. Again, not something the W3C would want to get in the way of. > > Correct. Dave saying "this is how UserLand does this" is fine. Yahoo > doing the same is likewise fine. Dave has every right to explain this > behaviour in a specification. The problem comes in when people write > software that *expects* a particular resource on *other* Web sites to > behave in the same way, based solely on its name. > > Put another way, the problem is with standards (whether a de facto > standard by a single vendor, or a Recommendation from the W3C, or an > IETF standard, etc.) specifying URIs for other people. It's true that > they can choose to follow that standard or not, but software will be > written assuming that that URI means something whether or not they do. > This has consequences for both the Web sites that don't support it, and > the software that's expecting a specific behaviour without any > agreement that it'll happen. > > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/