Re: Auto-aggregation of RSS from Blogroll management system
"Dave Winer" <dave-rH/ioLL7x7RWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:47:43 -0500
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Julian, many aggregators make it easy to publish your subscription list. What you're trying to do is the motivation behind that. We came out with a tool last year that put a user interface on this feature. http://radio.userland.com/rssExplorerTool Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Bond" <julian_bond-/Fkc1E/MbsFWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [syndication] Auto-aggregation of RSS from Blogroll management system > Jeff Barr <[email protected]> wrote: > >What exactly are you looking for, Julian? Do you want to pass > >in the URL to some page which might contain links to feeds, > >and get back the list of feeds on the page? Or all you > >looking for the list of feeds which have referenced that > >page in the past? > > This is how it works. This week, DW routed weblogs.com pings into an > aggregator page of Dean campaign RSS[1]. I looked at that and thought > there must be many more Dean RSS feeds. So I went to the blogforamerica > page and found a huge Blogroll. Maybe 60% of the sites on the blogroll > have an RSS feed[2]. Collecting them all involves going to each site in > turn and scrabbling around through guesswork, auto-discovery, searching > for an XML gif or the word syndicate and copying the url into a text > file. > > What I wanted out of this is an automated system where I gave it the > front page URL and it gave me:- > 1) A composite RSS feed of RSS found through the blogroll > 2) A list of the RSS feeds found for dropping into some other system. > > Now imagine going to a typical A-List blogger with their 50-100 blogroll > entries. The feed in 1) is going to be close to their own reading in > their own aggregator. Given the automated blogroll tools it may be > exactly the list of feeds they read. So 1) and 2) are a view into the > sources of their thinking. > > The point here is that the blogroll, especially with blogroll management > tools, is a human driven classification tool. The blogroll owner is > making conscious decisions to include or not include entries. And it's > comparatively trivial to cut and paste a URL out of a browser and type a > title to add an entry. I want to create the corresponding composite and > list of RSS streams automatically because finding the RSS is still a > pain. > > I haven't checked it out fully yet but I suspect bloglines does exactly > this. If you manage your blogroll and RSS lists through them, the things > I'm after are just a single click away with a link that can be dropped > into your site. The reverse is where you start with a blogroll and > generate the lists. > > [1]http://deancommunity.scripting.com/ > [2]There's an amazing number of Dean supporter sites that are built with > frames, odd URLs, frontpage, word, blog*spot with no rss and so on. > Soon, there's going to be one or more campaign aggregators and these > people will be left out. From a technical POV, this is a great > opportunity for RSS evangelism. > -- > Julian Bond Email&MSM: julian.bond-/Fkc1E/MbsFWk0Htik3J/[email protected] > Webmaster: http://www.ecademy.com/ > Personal WebLog: http://www.voidstar.com/ > M: +44 (0)77 5907 2173 T: +44 (0)192 0412 433 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndication/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [email protected] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndication/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/