Re: Google News RSS
"Dave Winer" <dave-rH/ioLL7x7RWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:36:10 -0500
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Isn't it a bit ironic that Google News, which is itself a scraped service, is protecting itself from scrapers? That said, others are putting ads in their RSS feeds, so why can't Goog? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dror Matalon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [syndication] Google News RSS > Julian, > > While I understand the frustration you need to keep an important point > in mind. > How is google going to make money if they provide the search results in > RSS? Remember the publishers are happy to provide RSS feeds, so that you > come to their web page and read the articles and expose you to ads. > Google's search results are the information they "publish." if they give > them away for free, they lost their only revenue model. Ain't going to > happen. > > I'm not sure why the care about news.google.com seeing that they don't > advertise there, but it could be either a matter of principal or they > want to advertise at some point and don't want to have to chase everyone > then. > > Regards, > > Dror > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:54:16PM +0100, Julian Bond wrote: > > Well I finally got the Cease and Desist email from Google for scraping > > Google news and then posting the results on a web site. So I guess I'll > > have to take those feeds down and convert them to use Yahoo! News > > search. > > > > I figure that using Gnews2rss[1] to feed into a personal aggregator is > > not going to worry them too much. The problem seems to be posting the > > results to a public website. If you do use gnews2rss, please host it > > yourself. > > > > I shouldn't really complain as I'm fairly clearly breaking their terms. > > However, I'm getting increasingly fed up that they don't have an XML > > (RSS or Atom) output from their search results. It's also become pretty > > disappointing that their SOAP API still only covers the main search > > engine and hasn't been extended to support the other parts of Google. > > > > So can I recommend an email writing campaign to ask for RSS/Atom from > > the Search functions. [email protected] The odd high profile blog > > might not go amiss either. > > > > rgds > > JB > > > > Here's the form email:- > > -------------------------- > > Dear Webmaster, > > > > We recently became aware that your site offers a Google News feed to the > > public. > > > > We appreciate your interest in Google News, but we do not currently > > permit the creation of a news feed from the results on Google News, nor > > do we permit webmasters to display Google News headlines on their sites. > > We provide a means for monitoring Google News searches through Google > > News Alerts at: http://www.google.com/newsalerts and encourage you to > > use this service instead. > > > > For more information about acceptable uses of Google News, please see > > our Terms of Use at > > http://news.google.com/intl/en_us/terms_google_news.html . > > > > If you'd like to incorporate Google News search results into your site, > > we ask that you do so by creating a link to the Google News main page or > > Google News search results. Please feel free to use any of our Google > > logos found at http://www.google.com/stickers.html . > > > > As always, your feedback and comments are very important to us. Please > > let us know if you have any questions or concerns. > > > > Regards, > > The Google Team > > -------------------------- > > > > [1] http://www.voidstar.com/gnews2rss.php > > -- > > Julian Bond Email&MSM: julian.bond at voidstar.com > > Webmaster: http://www.ecademy.com/ > > Personal WebLog: http://www.voidstar.com/ > > M: +44 (0)77 5907 2173 T: +44 (0)192 0412 433 > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Dror Matalon > Zapatec Inc > 1700 MLK Way > Berkeley, CA 94709 > http://www.fastbuzz.com > http://www.zapatec.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndication/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/