Re: random system crashes

Not trying to defend thttpd's honor nor to bash on TUX, but I would
gladly switch back to TUX if I thought whatever bug I ran into
repeatedly was fixed.  Even if I didn't see something in the changelog
for a newer version, I would instantly try to switch back to TUX
because I was so impressed with it both conceptually and performance
wise.  Well so impressed with it until I had to power cycle the box
every other day until I switched back to thttpd.  

And we were utilizing TUX in a pretty straight forward situation.  I
wasn't trying to serve files over NFS or anything strange.  

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:00:31PM +0200, Alex Kramarov wrote:
> Kernel development is a tough thing (i know, i wrote some features for tux),
> so if only one person develops it, it is endeed a problem. from what you
> say, if thttpd is satisfying for you, then you probably do not need tux. but
> believe it or not, i have tried thttpd on my servers, and it just doesn't
> cut it after a certain load, so tux was a savier for me.
> 
> and tux works well, unless you do something it wasn't designed for (like
> serving over nfs or something like this).
> 
> From: "William R Thomas" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:29 PM
> Subject: Re: random system crashes
> 
> 
> > What filesystem are you running?  Myself and at least one other person
> > have had problems that sound very similar to this, and the only
> > unifying thing that we could come up with was using reiserfs.  I have
> > no knowledge if anyone has a stable TUX setup running on reiserfs, so
> > the filesystem thing is just a guess.
> >
> > Eventually after not being able to get more stability out of a new
> > server than a windows 95 box, we turned off TUX, turned back on
> > THTTPD, and strangely no longer crash our server every other day.
> >
> > I have never gotten a response from the list with any assistance, and
> > it seems like the general attitude on here is, "Why don't you write a
> > patch and maybe it will get added in."  The primary developer hasn't
> > said anything on the list that I have noticed in many months.  No
> > redhat employee I have seen has said anything on the list since he
> > last spoke up.  There were rumors to the affect that the development
> > effort is being placed into newer kernel strains, god forbid someone
> > would want to run a server off a stable kernel.
> >
> > As you can tell, I am a bit jaded over my experiences with Tux.  On
> > the surface it seemed awesome.  In practice it was like a formula one
> > car hitting a wall, i.e. damn did it go fast and in a blaze of glory.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 03:38:40PM +0200, Marco Rothley wrote:
> > > Hello all!
> > >
> > > I have a big problem with one of my webservers which is running TUX. I
> don't
> > > know if TUX is the reason for that but the system crashes from time to
> time
> > > and there is nothing special with it except the TUX.
> > > The crashes are a little uncommon: The system reacts on nothing but
> ping. Even
> > > the local console isn't responding but the ping-timing is low as under
> usual
> > > operation. There is nothing in the logfiles that points to a problem.
> They
> > > just stop and the next messages I see are the bootup messages of the
> kernel
> > > (after reboot). One time I just had top running on the machine as it
> crashed
> > > and I saw nothing special: Enough free memory, no high load and over 50%
> idle
> > > time on the two CPUs, etc.. And from one moment to the other it was
> frozen.
> > > I just thought someone could have similar problems and have a solution.
> The
> > > hardware was completely replaced by the hoster but the problem persists.
> Just
> > > the HD stayed the same but the RAID-Controller reported no failures. So
> I
> > > think it's not a hardware problem.
> > >
> > > The system is a dual P3 with 1.266 GHz, 1GB ECC-SDRAM from IBM (x330)
> with a
> > > SCSI RAID-Controller and 2x36GB IBM SCSI disks.
> > >
> > > The kernel Version is 2.4.18 with TUX 2.2.7. I don't know if there's any
> other
> > > patch in the kernel. I have Apache as "backend" server.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > Marco.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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