Re: GPL musings

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Ok.  Yes, technically the code should be available. . .but it can't be. 
. .if Rudi released the SC code as it is people would lose more time 
trying to get it to work.  Of course it would have been better if the 
code had been originally developed in the CVS and regular checkin's 
made, then the code could be retrieved at many different points. . 
.including before the bad merge.  But that wasn't done, so now let Rudi 
work and within a reasonable amount of time, he will get this all 
resolved.  Don't be unreasonable. . .let Rudi work.  He doesn't have to 
work on this project, it is a gift to all of us.  If he wanted, he could 
just remove the SC exe's, delete the code and let someone else develop 
it from scratch.  Let's just be reasonable.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Carl Karsten <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:06:33 AM
*Subject:* [Ultravnc-list] GPL musings


> For feature requests and bug reports RC15 RC16. Please use the forum 
> at http://forum.ultravnc.net/
>
>> My opinion:
>>
>> A demand for the source code immediately is unreasonable.  Rudi's 
>> time should be spent on the bug fixes for the next release.  Far more 
>> people will benefit from that release than a release of source code.  
>> If someone has to have source code "right now", let them go look for 
>> another open source project.
>>
>>
>
> I agree.
>
> Now, I want to explore something.  I don't expect Rudi to read of 
> respond to this and would prefer he read it when he feels like taking 
> a break from coding.
>
> What would the course of action be to hold someone accountable for
> BIG GPL issue violations?  Here in the US, there are 2 ways you end up 
> in front of a judge: 1) you break a law, the police figure it out and 
> arrest you.  2) someone feels they have been wronged and sue you for 
> damages.  Rudi has broken no laws, so he is safe in that regard.  I 
> can see how he may have wronged someone.  Someone may have to do more 
> work than they should because of something Rudi did, or should have 
> done but didn't.
>
> So assuming that person(s) wanted to pursue this, they have to come up 
> with an amount.  I don't see much mental anguish or life long 
> disabilities or other intangible things, just time.  (Not even sure 
> about the time - I lost track of what exactly the problem was - 
> doesn't really matter, I am more interested in theory than reality 
> anyway.) Given that you can't sue for time, you somehow convert time 
> into money, generally at some high hourly rate that is based on what 
> you could have made if you weren't doing something else.  This you can 
> take in front of a judge.  Of course you have to have some sort of 
> support for your amount, which is an unfortunate part of this process.
>
> I am pretty sure the person being sued can just send a check for the 
> amount, and the issue is settled, no court appearance necessary.
>
> So let's say this happened.  Rudi gets sued for $X.  I have a theory:  
> a collection would be started to take care of Rudi, and enough would 
> be collected to cover it.  I know that I would chip in.  It is the 
> least we can do to help Rudi out given what he has done for "us."
>
> Carl Karsten
>
>
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