Re: hackable APs question

Jim Thompson <[email protected]> Sun, 6 Mar 2005 12:01:39 -1000
Newsgroups gmane.network.wireless.bay-area
Message-ID <[email protected]>
If I may be so bold, I'll de-cloak for a bit and do the vendor dance in 
public.

Valemount currently has a "special" going

	1 WRAP 2C
	16MB CF card, loaded with StarOS
	Your choice of miniPCI card (Atheros or 2511MP)
	Power supply

All for the (on sale) price of $266.

Netgate will sell you any of
	 PowerG8 WRAP 2511 
(http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=148)
	PowerG8 WRAP 3054 
(http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=173)
	PowerG8 WRAP CM9 
(http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=158)

for $299.95

Where these kits comprise

	WRAP 2C board
	16MB CF card (loaded with m0n0wall (which now supports Atheros cards))
	Power supply
	Your choice of radio card (
		PowerG8 WRAP 2511 = Senao 2511MP 200mW 802.11b,
		PowerG8 WRAP 3054 = Senao 3054MP 100mW 802.11b/g,		or
		PowerG8 CM9 = Wistron Atheros 4th gen card 802.11a/b/g.)

	Outdoor cast-aluminum NEMA 67 case, along with all mounting hardware 
(pole and wall mount)
	Two 5.5dBi omni "rubber duck" weather-proof antennas
	POE injector
	Two u.fl to RP-N pigtails.

That is, for the same price (and ours is the ordinary list price, not a 
'sale') we include the case, antennas and pigtails.  Valemount includes 
shipping in their prices, we don't.

If you're looking for something more in-line with "hackable, but stock 
APs", we have those too.  Or if you want to discuss the merits of 
Rootftop, vs OLSR (with ETX), or other mesh technologies. see me on or 
off-list.   For a taste, you may find that getting Click (sorta 
requisite for rootnet) into 8MB of flash (along with the rest of what 
you need) to be quite difficult.

Finally, there is this to consider about StarOS.   
http://seattlewireless.net/~mattw/fnorg/20041118.html

Yes, its me doing the finger pointing, and it would be tough to prove 
the part about the Orinoco driver unless we all went to court.  (I no 
longer have access to the source code, obviously.)

But its true.

jim

On Mar 2, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Mike Sensney wrote:

> To quote Bob Keyes:
>
>> I am looking for APs that I can load linux/bsd onto, and then port 
>> RoofNet
>> to. Which means I need wifi devices supported by with madwifi or 
>> hostap. I
>> also am looking for APs with a fair amount of ram - 32mb is good, I 
>> am not
>> sure that 16mb can do it. 4mb of flash is probably the minimum, 8mb of
>> flash would be nice. So far I'd found the NetGear WGT634U Linksys 
>> WRT54GS
>> have 32mb/8mb, the former with Atheros chipset and the latter with 
>> Prism3.
>> Anything about either of these units I should know of? Or are there 
>> others
>> to add to this list?
>
> The StarOS, in addition to software, also sells hardware. The 
> hardware, while
> a little pricey, does tend to meet the minimum requirements you 
> mentioned.
> While it may not be what you are looking for, I do not think my link 
> to the
> StarOS web site by any means qualifies as "White Noise" as Cody Oliver 
> seems
> to think.
>
> On the left side of their web site is a link that says Hardware. Click 
> on it
> and it will take you to this page: http://www.staros.com/prices.php
>
>
> At 05:07 PM 2/27/2005, Cody Oliver wrote:
>
>> White Noise.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:47:49 -0500 (EST), Bob Keyes 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Mike Sensney wrote:
>> >
>> > > There is always StarOS. http://www.staros.com/
>> >
>> > I don't understand the relevance of StarOS to the question I asked. 
>> I
>> > asked for a hardware recommendation, StarOS is software. The 
>> software I am
>> > using is free, can be ported to embedded hardware, whereas StarOS 
>> requires
>> > Celeron or higher or an x86 "almost embedded" board, and is not 
>> free in
>> > either meaning of the word. Finally, StarOS does not appear to be a 
>> mesh
>> > network. So please explain.
>> >
>> >
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