Re: hackable APs question

George <[email protected]> Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:36:15 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.network.wireless.bay-area
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> Finally, there is this to consider about StarOS.   
> http://seattlewireless.net/~mattw/fnorg/20041118.html
> 
> Yes, its me doing the finger pointing, and it would be tough to prove 
> the part about the Orinoco driver unless we all went to court.  (I no 
> longer have access to the source code, obviously.)
> 
> But its true.
> 
> jim

Is it really true Jim?
Here is what Lonnie has to say:
You might think Jim is well know and respected, but all I can say is 
that he is well known.  In that blog he says we are taking away the 
Authors "Moral" rights, so we quickly changed it so everybody can see 
all the bootup stuff.  We were OK legally since we gave the diff and did 
not remove any copyright from the code, we just stopped the display.  We 
hid nothing or we would not have provided the diff.  We did not think 
people like to watch that stuff but some guys must not have TV.  Did you 
catch on that he was worried about the little ISO flash writer that we 
provide for convenience?

As for the Vivato thing, we are under NDA and so was (is?) Jim.  He also 
gives directions to cause trouble for the Vivato system.  Yes the very 
company he claims to have been employed by.  He is obviously a highly 
moral person with unquestionable scruples and ethics.  I bet they 
treasure the days that he worked for them.  Is he your Hero?

For the record we have an OEM AP Development License from Agere and 
later Proxim.  That gave us access to their entire Orinoco source code 
base and believe me NONE of it is GPL.  Do you honestly think we would 
rip off the GPL Hermes driver and make it the Valemount Orinoco driver 
when we had the REAL thing?  Maybe Jim was just furious because we 
showed how simple it was to load the tertiary image and make an AP where 
he and his whole team of Engineers could not accomplish it.  Also for 
the record, Vivato had the very same license and code that we had.  Why 
was Jim fooling around with the GPL client code when he had the whole 
enchilada?
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And then there is this little tidbit that another guy posted:

 > What about the issues that Matthew has brought up a few times?
 >>It seems that Jim, another well known and well respected individual
 >>has said: http://seattlewireless.net/~mattw/fnorg/20041118.html


Judd...Here is the opinion of the "well known and well respected
individual":

"the wet-dream of wireless broadband isn't good for more than crusty
stains on the front of your pants while basking in the anticipatory
stage, and brown streaks inside your pants once the buzz is gone,
the babe turns hag, and you finally understand that you'll never
compete with a wired infrastructure."

Hmm...He may be respected by you, but he does not get my vote.
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Some of us actually belive that our wireless broadband is a bit more 
than wet dreams, skid marks, or crusty stains in the front of our pants.

George


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