ideas was Re: Activity?
Tom Sparks <[email protected]> Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:57:51 +1000 (EST)
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I am going to use the open-mesh.com nodes I am looking at have a video sharing website=20 (Creative commons/other open license, high quality download members only) photo sharing website (something like flickr, Creative commons/other open license), music sharing website (something like Jamendo, may even mirror some Jamendo music) streaming radio (jukebox, music from the music sharing website, live on-site streaming, DJing (on-site live, prearranged music and call-in request)) streaming TV (video jukebox, videos from the video sharing website, live on-site streaming, studio shows (news)) three levels of access level 1: visitor/traveller can access every website no membership to any website can upload videos/music (file must be approved by admins) level 2: node owners every person living under one roof/house size block of land get membership to every website level 3: admin (must own a node) admin access to every website, only one person per-location On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 09:34 +0200, Sven-Ola T=C3=BCcke wrote:=20 > Hey, >=20 > what they have in common (muniwireless, meraki, open-mesh.com etc) is, that=20 > they tend to make the network itself a private/owned resource. Something an=20 > individual or an group of people owns. Hence they fail for the critical=20 > mission: to build "street like" infrastructure, where you can reach=20 > different "stores" to buy your services from whatever entitity (if it's not=20 > entirely free already). Example: there should be more than one host offering=20 > OpenVPN for international connections or so. >=20 > Typical keywords in "support queries" which reach my mail account from time to=20 > time: We need to "control", "register", "encrypt". They cannot rely on or do=20 > not understand concepts like "sharing", "commons", "community". And - e.g..=20 > the merkaki folks simply charge too much for their registration=20 > service/software ;-) >=20 > Having such closed concepts in mind, it is _not_ easy for any other individual=20 > to jump in and join. Hence you will fail to reach the critial user count nor=20 > do you bind the necessary altruism - wich _is_ out there. What's also sad:=20 > this uses up the spectrum originally meant to be free and commons.=20 >=20 > There are examples of running open meshes. I live in one called freifunk and I=20 > dont pay for inet currently (while I need to do some work to get that thing=20 > up and running - but that's another story). And yes - there are plenty of=20 > in-between implementations (in-between: closed and open) as this is real=20 > live - but you need to start with a more extreme position otherwise you have=20 > nothing for later negotiations <ggg> >=20 > // Sven-Ola >=20 > Am Mittwoch 06 August 2008 03:29:43 schrieb Tom Sparks: > [snip] > > > > yea :) > > someone with my thinking > > I am proposing something like this to my > > local/regional council :) > > > > Why should I pay AU$40 (and have a 12/36 months > > contract) to get on the > > Internet to view the local/regional websites for my > > area? > > > > I still think there needs to be a cost if you are > > accessing > > international websites > _______________________________________________ > CU-Wireless mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless > Project Page: http://cuwireless.ucimc.org >=20 Find a better answer, faster with the new Yahoo!7 Search. www.yahoo= 7.com.au/search _______________________________________________ CU-Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless Project Page: http://cuwireless.ucimc.org