Re: [CUWiN] Re: CU-Wireless Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1

Tim Yardley wrote:
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> Barry;
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> Anything is possible.   For those that are even remotely crafty, the=20
> limitations that are in place won=92t stop them anyway.  As for=20
> specifically allowing ssh, I=92ll poke around the agreement and see if=20
> there is anything explicitly stated to stop it.  If not, I=92ll toss th=
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> idea around and see if there are any objections.  It would make my=20
> life easier as well.
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> No promises, but better than nothing right?  Keep in mind that in=20
> Pavlov doing this was a gift to the city, so as such it=92s meant to be=
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> usable to the masses.  If the masses need ssh for common use, then=20
> they should get that if it doesn=92t hamper the rest of the users. =20
> Another one that is obviously on the list of niceties would be to=20
> allow SIP.  Since the requirements of that can be a little more=20
> intensive, that is a little harder sell.
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> Again though, anything is possible.
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> /tmy
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> *From:* [email protected]=20
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Barry=20
> Isralewitz
> *Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2007 12:41 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [CUWiN] Re: CU-Wireless Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1
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> Hi,
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>     Message: 2
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>     Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:35:35 -0500
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>     From: David Young <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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>     Subject: Re: [CUWiN] Champaign's "free" wireless.
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> [snip]
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> SSH does not even work
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>             Wow, really?  In a tech-dependent town like this one? =20
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>             Can Go Networks/Pavlov be convinced by the City to turn=20
> SSH on?  Something like
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>             1. Convince City of Champaign that
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>                         a) Alpha-geeks are far happier with SSH.=20
>  Champaign wants these people happy, whether residents or=20
> visitors: from their ranks come new tax-paying local tech businesses=20
> and local-economy-vital UIUC world-tech-leader status.  They wouldn't=20
> for example, want a visiting  entrepreneurially-bent academic,=20
> contemplating a UIUC  job,  to turn on her laptop in downtown=20
> Champaign, attempt to check a running process back home,  then shout=20
> "idiotic Champaign wireless!   I knew this small town would suck,=20
> I'm definitely taking that position at Berkeley."
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>                         b) SSH is how users will communicate with the=20
> computers we are famous for, like, say, the coming $200M Fastest=20
> Computer in The Freaking World.
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>                         c) Blocking SSH doesn't prevent bad behavior;=20
> similarly abusive/bandwdith-abusive behavior can happen over http.
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>             2. Convinced by such  arguments, and motivated soley by=20
>  forward-thinking tax greed, Champaign tells Go Networks / Pavolv=20
> "unblock SSH".
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>                                                 Cheers,
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>                                                 Barry
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> Barry Isralewitz   Theoretical and Computational Biophysics Group, UIUC=
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Seems like wireless infrastructure mostly about kids being able to=20
access their school networks for a truly 21st century education.  Ssh=20
connection to school network from downtown field trips, follow-up=20
assignments for school, etc., is an everyday occurrance.  I'd check with=20
the schools, and see if they're employing ssh for their kids.  If not,=20
is it something they'd do if it was a benefit for expanding school=20
curriculum using technology available through the wireless=20
infrastructure.  Just a thought.
Tom Poe, Charles City, Iowa
P.S.  So far, our local city leaders and school IT folks reject such=20
ideas out-of-hand.  They like not providing our kids with a 21st century=20
education.=20
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