Re: Activity?

Todd Boyle <[email protected]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:19:56 -0700
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I love your footnotes!

Re. the CUWIN wireless mesh apparatus, isn't it completely obsoleted 
by products like Meraki that do the same thing for $50 without 
requiring technical expertise?   This is just the march of time, the 
march of history.

I always hoped and wished that the people would operate the internet 
rather than allowing teh commercial telephone and cable TV operators 
to own and operate the Internet but I have been disappointed to say 
the least!   People just don't care that much about it.  They think 
things are ok.    The commercial providers, for their part have spent 
much of their takings and plowed it back into fiber and router 
capacity, I'll admit that.   At least in the denser, higher income 
neighborhoods (i.e. advertising markets).   In doing so, they've 
supported a continuous increase in expectations on thruput and 
performance that raises the price of entry for any 3rd network even 
if heavily funded (such as the municipal networks).

It seems to me the Meraki or CUWIN things still have niches in the US 
suburbs but they're pretty sparse, pretty narrow niches. Such as 
emergency connectivity, or a rare cirucmstances of gamers or file 
sharers who happen to live nearby, and happen to have that rare 
combination of social affinity/trust and technical savvy, etc.   Very rare.

Todd



At 06:52 AM 8/5/2008, Jeff Kinz wrote:

>Hi Folks, Just wondering if your group is still active?
>Haven't seen any email from this list for 7 months or so.
>So I'm just wondering.
>--
>
>"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and 
>carrying a cross."
>- Sinclair Lewis.
>
>"Fascism came to America in a bombed out skyscraper, wrapped in a 
>flag and carrying a cross."
>- Jeff Kinz, with apologies to Sinclair Lewis.
>
>Isn't it amazing how much more respected and better liked our new policy
>that the Geneva convention doesn't apply to us and that torture is legal
>has made America around the world?
>
>"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government
>when it deserves it." We may hope that our leaders and our government
>stand up for our ideals, and there are many times in our history when
>that's occurred. But when our laws, our leaders or our government are
>out of alignment with our ideals, then the dissent of ordinary Americans
>may prove to be one of the truest expressions of patriotism."
>- Mark Twain
>
>Statistically, terrorists are less dangerous than supermarket grapes. In
>response to this information, the Bush administration has added grocery
>stores that have produce sections to DHS duties. Please add a 1 hour
>wait time to your grocery shopping trips as the lines to get past the
>security checkpoint and into the grocery store can be quite long.
>
>Also please remember you will not be able to purchase more than 3
>ounces of any liquids such as bleach, toothpaste, water or soda.
>
>Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.
>
>_______________________________________________
>CU-Wireless mailing list
>[email protected]
>http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless
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<font size=3>I love your footnotes! <br><br>
Re. the CUWIN wireless mesh apparatus, isn't it completely obsoleted by
products like Meraki that do the same thing for $50 without requiring
technical expertise?&nbsp;&nbsp; This is just the march of time, the
march of history. <br><br>
I always hoped and wished that the people would operate the internet
rather than allowing teh commercial telephone and cable TV operators to
own and operate the Internet but I have been disappointed to say the
least!&nbsp;&nbsp; People just don't care that much about it.&nbsp; They
think things are ok.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The commercial providers, for
their part have spent much of their takings and plowed it back into fiber
and router capacity, I'll admit that.&nbsp;&nbsp; At least in the denser,
higher income neighborhoods (i.e. advertising markets).&nbsp;&nbsp; In
doing so, they've supported a continuous increase in expectations on
thruput and performance that raises the price of entry for any 3rd
network even if heavily funded (such as the municipal
networks).&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>
It seems to me the Meraki or CUWIN things still have niches in the US
suburbs but they're pretty sparse, pretty narrow niches. Such as
emergency connectivity, or a rare cirucmstances of gamers or file sharers
who happen to live nearby, and happen to have that rare combination of
social affinity/trust and technical savvy, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; Very rare.
<br><br>
Todd<br><br>
<br><br>
At 06:52 AM 8/5/2008, Jeff Kinz wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Folks, Just wondering if your
group is still active? <br>
Haven't seen any email from this list for 7 months or so.<br>
So I'm just wondering.<br>
-- <br><br>
&quot;When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and
carrying a cross.&quot;<br>
- Sinclair Lewis.<br><br>
&quot;Fascism came to America in a bombed out skyscraper, wrapped in a
flag and carrying a cross.&quot;<br>
- Jeff Kinz, with apologies to Sinclair Lewis.<br><br>
Isn't it amazing how much more respected and better liked our new
policy<br>
that the Geneva convention doesn't apply to us and that torture is
legal<br>
has made America around the world?<br><br>
&quot;Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your
government<br>
when it deserves it.&quot; We may hope that our leaders and our
government<br>
stand up for our ideals, and there are many times in our history
when<br>
that's occurred. But when our laws, our leaders or our government
are<br>
out of alignment with our ideals, then the dissent of ordinary
Americans<br>
may prove to be one of the truest expressions of patriotism.&quot;<br>
- Mark Twain<br><br>
Statistically, terrorists are less dangerous than supermarket grapes.
In<br>
response to this information, the Bush administration has added
grocery<br>
stores that have produce sections to DHS duties. Please add a 1 hour<br>
wait time to your grocery shopping trips as the lines to get past
the<br>
security checkpoint and into the grocery store can be quite
long.<br><br>
Also please remember you will not be able to purchase more than 3<br>
ounces of any liquids such as bleach, toothpaste, water or soda.<br><br>
Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.<br><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
CU-Wireless mailing list<br>
[email protected]<br>
<a href="http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless" eudora="autourl">
http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless</a><br>
Project Page:
<a href="http://cuwireless.ucimc.org/" eudora="autourl">
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