Re: Build A Booth Spread the Word

Hi All,

It's been quite sometime since I've lurked/posted at PTP-general, but  
this is a very interesting dilemma that definitely has an elegant  
solution...  I just don't know what it is yet!

Though the document linked to has some loopholes, I think it is best  
to play ball by house rules...

> SSIDs will not be broadcast. Power will be set at minimum levels.  
> Any access point(s) that do not meet the above specifications or  
> that have not been approved by OCC Telecommunications will be  
> disconnected.

A possibility is to secure a wired connection legitimately and then  
work our Wi-Fi foo (at "lowest power" of course) to mesh around the  
place, but just not broadcast the SSID.  We could then inform people  
of the SSID by word of mouth, signage, etc...  This may be the best  
way to get the end result without stepping on too many toes.

Nice to be back!

Matthew

PS - I still have access to $1/foot large scale printing...  Russell  
has requested the Mississippi map, any others?



On May 23, 2007, at 5:43 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> The OCC does have pretty strict regulations about what types of  
> networking
> equiptment exhibitors are allowed to operate.  Those can be found  
> here:
>
> http://live.oregoncc.org/ex_services_orders/c&r.htm
>
> Specifically, it says:
> "No wireless (WiFi) access points are allowed unless approved by OCC
> Telecommunications at (503) 731-7859. SSIDs will not be broadcast.  
> Power
> will be set at minimum levels. Any access point(s) that do not meet  
> the
> above specifications or that have not been approved by OCC
> Telecommunications will be disconnected."
>
> I operated a completely "walled-garden" style of captive portal for  
> the
> Posse booth at last year's Innotech.  We were paid a friendly visit  
> by the
> OCC thugs, and only allowed to continue operation under the  
> assurance that
> we were providing NO outside Internet access of any kind.
>
> Knowing the zeal with which the OCC looks to preserve their "captive"
> audience, and the fact that the PTP's reputation (and invitation)  
> are at
> stake in how we represent ourselves at these such conferences, I would
> vote against bringing any sort of repeater onto the premises  
> sporting the
> personaltelco.net SSID.  Let the guerilla EVDO backpackers (ev)do  
> their
> thing, and let everyone else just be completely dissatisfied with  
> the piss
> poor service provided by the OCC and 11wireless.  Hopefully, the  
> market
> will soon realize there is a trustworthy alternative.
>
> I have no problem with us blasting the OCC with signal from outside  
> the
> premises, operating a kool-aid wifi stand in the parking lot across  
> the
> street, or even attempting to operate a "walled" information portal
> describing the PTP members' opinions and alternatives from our booth.
> But, please do not break the rules you already know we are required to
> operate under in order to impress not only the conference  
> attendees, but
> the promoters as well.  Bad press may be good press, but a bad  
> taste might
> be left in O'Reilly's mouth if we improperly microwave their "free  
> beer".
>
> just my $.02
>
> -Troy
>
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2007 10:43 pm, Tyler Booth wrote:
>> Having recently attended the Innotech conference, I can confirm #1
>> and #3. #2 was also the case at Innotech but it was sponsored by a  
>> large
>> software company from Redmond....can't seem to remember their name
>> though....damn.
>>
>> Tyler Booth // President
>> ph. 503.548.2000 | fx. 503.548.2002 921 SW Washington St, Suite 224
>> Portland OR 97205
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 22, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Weinberg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> Michael> That's a great idea for after OSCON. If we ask, and they  
>>> say
>>> Michael> "please don't" then we've got a hurdle. If we just do  
>>> it, and
>>> Michael> someone makes a fuss, we say "sorry, we were just trying to
>>> Michael> provide a demo." This is the type of thing that no one is
>>> Michael> liable to care about, unless it is presented to them in  
>>> a way
>>> Michael> that makes them think "hmm, I should probably care about
>>> Michael> this. I should probably say no!"
>>>
>>>
>>> Darrin reports on IRC:
>>>
>>>
>>> <dje_> just coming from railsconf i can say three things about the
>>> oregon cc. 1) 11wireless is still much in effect 2) o'reilly  
>>> provider a
>>> free and open network 3) they both sucked beyond belief and that was
>>> with a crowd 1/10th the size of oscon. <dje_> get wired or get bent
>>> gents. <dje_> lots o' people had closed backpack (evdo gateway)  
>>> nodes as
>>>  well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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