Re: Verizon FIOS Terms of Service

Thomas Fitzgerald <tom-XOQLl3F0metWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:09:13 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.network.wireless.portland.general
Message-ID <20070815180913.708188b9f7c326f08d6c96c96adc4b06.07b3b45c00.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
   I had verizon dsl for a long time in beaverton, they never once
   bitched at me for running my own mail server, web server, ftp etc..
   I'm sure if you purchased the verizon business plan they could give a
   hoot about what you do.
   Comcast on the other hand, pitched a fit when I  ran a VNC session to
   my house...

   I had up until today run my PTP node on comcast, because that was the
   only thing available. the DSL service out in my part of east county
   sux ass. 768k is all I could get.
   Tom

     -------- Original Message --------
     Subject: Re: [ptp-general] Verizon FIOS Terms of Service
     From: Jim Snow <[email protected]>
     Date: Wed, August 15, 2007 4:42 pm
     To: [email protected]
     Cc: general-9Og1/[email protected]
     They seem to only want you to use FIOS within one household:
     "3.7 If you subscribe to Broadband Service: ... 3.7.2 You may
     connect
     multiple computers/devices within a single home to your Broadband
     modem
     and/or router to access the Service, but only through a single
     Broadband
     account and a single IP address obtained from Verizon."
     Though they word it in a way that tells us what we are allowed to
     do
     (implying that anything else is forbidden), instead of explicitly
     telling us what we're not allowed to do. It sounds to me that they
     aren't sharing friendly (which is a shame because I have FIOS and
     an
     olsr node on my roof and I would like to connect the latter to the
     former).
     FYI, I'm trying to build a mesh in the Aloha area. See
     [1]http://bootlegether.net if you're interested.
     -jim
     Keith Lofstrom wrote:
     > I am currently on Comcast out here in Beaverton, and the Terms Of
     > Service prohibits rebroadcasting the service. So, no PTP node.
     >
     > However, the Verizon contractor was in the back yard yesterday,
     > installing fiber for FIOS in our neighborhood. If I am correctly
     > reading the (lengthy) TOS agreement on the Verizon site:
     >
     > [2]http://www.verizon.net/policies/popups/tos_popup.asp
     >
     > ... it appears that there is no explicit prohibition on putting
     up
     > a PTP node. Any contrary opinions or experience?
     >
     > I'm not going to jump to a new service just to save $10/month,
     and
     > I don't need more download speed, and my outwards-facing server
     is
     > already offsite. But the ability to run a PTP node off a modified
     > WRT54GS (which I have ready to install) is compelling. Ideas?
     >
     > Keith
     >
     >
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References

   1. http://bootlegether.net/
   2. http://www.verizon.net/policies/popups/tos_popup.asp
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