Re: 3650 Mhz

there should be a list of who owns the stations in the same FCC doc that was 
referenced earlier.  It may be worth looking into.  We are pretty excited 
about the 3.65 band and being able to really deploy a slice of WiMAX.  50MHz 
of Spectrum is more than double what Clearwire has in most places and you 
can go to 25Watts EIRP.  You can get a lot of bandwidth and great blanket 
coverage with that.

ty




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Churchill" <[email protected]>
Cc: <general-9Og1/[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [ptp-general] 3650 Mhz


>I was just guessing it was nsa's Yakima station. I'm not aware of any
> intelsat earth stations around Portland. But it looks like the grey circle
> is actually centered around Portland. Maybe some of the television earth
> stations on sylvan hills or something.
>
> - Sam
>
> On Dec 4, 2007 6:50 AM, Tyler van Houwelingen <tyler-V1V7y2s5pYxWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> If anyone has any contacts at the NSA, you can negotiate to get 3.6GHz 
>> use
>> in the blacked out area, but clearly this is not easy.  We wanted to use
>> 3.6GHz for commercial purposes in Silicon Valley and Sacramento (where it
>> is also blacked out), but the owner was Sprint.  Needless to say they 
>> were
>> not too interested in opening this spectrum to potential competitors!
>>
>> It is too bad for portland and the other blacked out areas as 3.6GHz
>> really looks like a great oppty for WiMAX.  The FCC really did it right
>> with 3.6GHz rulings.  I am not sure when Intel Centrino will natively
>> support 3.6GHz in Centrino, I know it wont be there in this first release
>> coming out now (only 1.9, 2.3, 2.5 for now) - probably sometime end 08.
>>
>> ty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Oh, wait, they already have a secret room in the Westin Building, don't
>> > they
>> >
>> > (http://westinbuilding.com/telecom). So what's the point?
>> >
>> > I guess they're being carefull, just in case the DOJ shuts them down.
>> > - Sam
>> > -------
>> >
>> > On Dec 3, 2007 8:03 PM, Sam Churchill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Geez. From the look of that map, Portland's use of 3650 is getting
>> >> killed
>> >> off by the NSA's Yakima monitoring station (some 150 miles south of
>> >> Brewster). Can't they just install a secret room?
>> >>
>> >> - Sam
>> >> ====
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 3, 2007 7:41 PM, Stephen Ronan <[email protected]> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > A map on page 66 of this FCC Order clarifies the areas that are
>> >> outside
>> >> > of the Fixed Satellite Station exclusion areas:
>> >> > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf
>> >> >  - Stephen Ronan
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Irving Popovetsky wrote:
>> >> > > I've read that the Portland metro area is in some kind of 
>> >> > > Satellite
>> >> > > station exclusion zone,  as well as most other major coastal-state
>> >> > > cities.   Was there any clarification or resolution about that?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > BSU is in Muncie(!), IN,  and therefore may be free from
>> interfering
>> >> > > with said satellite stations.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -Irving
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Sam Churchill wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Ball State University did a test of semi-license-free WiMAX at
>> >> 3.65GHz.
>> >> > >> (http://www.bsu.edu/owrm/)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "OWRM defined goals to determine the performance available to
>> allow
>> >> > WISP's
>> >> > >> the ability to reach customers in various markets including those
>> >> > that are
>> >> > >> not feasible with
>> >> > >> other technologies. The area covered by a single sector included 
>> >> > >> a
>> >> > 120
>> >> > >> degree path and extended out to approximately 1 mile for indoor
>> >> units
>> >> > and 5
>> >> > >> or more miles for outdoor."
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Two words: Rocky Butte.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
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