RE: Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot - Worth it? - billing platforms?

"Jason Morton" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.wireless.seattle.devel
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Why do we keep getting these profit related things and from Cali no less? 

I mentioned trying to get people to pay for some wireless so I can keep
giving poor kids free internet and I got ripped a new one. 

Can someone with authority do something?

Jason Morton

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Consultant
[mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:30 PM
To: 'Joe Towner'; 'SeattleWireless Development List'
Subject: RE: Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot - Worth it? - billing platforms?


Joe... Appreciate the technical info... My growth plan is to simply see how
much money I can generate before buying a serious cisco wireless AP... 

And I was considering Boingo as a way to PAINLESSLY guage traffic.. I don't
expect to make millions off boingo but.. It looks like the fastest way to
get off the ground... 

You mention 
"Hotspot in a box solutions that you should look at."
I'd love to find a profit share billing system... Any ideas... As it stands
now.. Boingo only pays me month ONE and keeps the MRC ongoing... I'd love to
do a 70/30... Me 70... And the billing platform folks take 30... 

And point well taken - about the Karma that is.. Changed my address book...
Btw... Talking about karma.. 

Its Raining and Gloomy here in San DIEGO!!!!




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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Towner [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:20 PM
To: [email protected]; 'SeattleWireless Development List'
Subject: RE: Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot - Worth it?


There are a few different ways you would want to deal with this.  Are you
going to be dealing with a lot of monthly users, or are you looking to snag
a few bucks off of a bunch of people "on their way thru"?  

If it's the former, then you're going to want to setup something in-house,
with a back end accounting & user management system.  You want a enterprise
level gateway then, so you can make sure those who don't pay are
"restricted".  Also expect to support the users, as in, if they can't
connect, it has to be your wireless stuff right?  Also plan on doing a front
end & back end wifi, where as you have b/g AP's for clients to connect to,
but A links between your AP's.

If it's the latter, where you're looking at customers looking to pass thru,
there are a few different Hotspot in a box solutions that you should look
at.  Their builtin support for a ticket / timed automatic user accounts
makes 98% of the headache's go away.

Either way, don't look to "hacked" consumer grade equipment to make this
work.  Use something commercial that will keep going under the most intense
summer sun and heat.  Your time is money, and running around replacing gear
on a constant schedule will get old really quick.  I'd recommend some of the
Metrix Mark II boxes for nodes, it'll make your life much easier.

Figure out what you are looking to accomplish, then hit ONE list back.
Posting to numerous lists at once is bad for the karma.

BTW - it's sunny and clear, mid 40s outside in Seattle.

-Joe

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