Re: Speakeasy +WIMAX

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My BAD!!!.. other people and reporters have called Speakeasy's offering 
pre-WiMAX but upon looking at the press release and web site the company 
calls it "WiMAX Class" service - they apparently do not say, at least in 
writing, that it is either WiMAX or Pre-WiMAX.

There is a big distinction: The ONLY   THING THAT CAN LEGITIMATELY BE 
CALLED/LABELED WIMAX  are systems and sub-systems such as CPEs that work 
with base stations and routers as part of an overall certified system.  The 
WiMAX Forum authorized lab conducts certification testing according to 
system profile PICS and other testing documents and upon meeting final 
passing marks, the results are submitted to the WiMAX Forum for official 
grant of a WiMAX Certified approval letter and label.  This process includes 
both standards conformance testing and compatibility testing among three or 
more vendors (three minimum).  The compatibility testing is also called the 
'plug-fest' in the vernacular.

I am also engaged now in doing some work for the WiMAX Forum organization 
which should show up in 2-3 months on their web site.. if I don't blow it!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Casey Halverson" <[email protected]>
To: "SeattleWireless Talk List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: Speakeasy +WIMAX


Technically yes.....but there are too many new players now for the small, 
select few who have frequency coordination arrangements.

The fun part is when non-RF savy network engineers get ahold of microwave 
gear, and start pointing it all over the place.  They also drink the 30 mile 
marketing koolaid too;  they come up to me and ask what vendor I suggest for 
shooting through 20 miles of trees and through a hill.  Yea right.

It will be interesting to see how successful speakeasy is with their 5.8GHz 
unlicensed service.  While there is a bit of activity downtown in this band, 
I suspect that with noise tolerances and directional antennas, it wont get 
that bad.  Even in noisy environments, the stuff still works pretty well in 
the real world.  3 or 4 9's?  Maybe...but who knows.

There is no way in hell they are getting Nextel/Sprint 2.5GHz 
spectrum....now that they are one company, they are going to be done some 
really interesting stuff with WiMax in this band nationwide.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John
> van Oppen (list account)
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:16 PM
> To: SeattleWireless Talk List
> Subject: AW: Speakeasy +WIMAX
>
> Does anyone know if there are any city wide frequency
> coordination efforts in seattle?
>
> John :)
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jack Unger [mailto:[email protected]]
> Gesendet: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:09 PM
> An: SeattleWireless Talk List
> Betreff: Re: Speakeasy +WIMAX
>
> Not likely. Many new WISPs don't have a clue about noise,
> interference, signal-to-noise ratio, throughput,
> reliability... etc. What they do know about is equipment
> manufacturer's marketing claims (30 miles,
> none-line-of-sight, blah, blah, blah...)
>                            jack
>
> Ralph Sims wrote:
> > http://www.speakeasy.net/business/wimax/coverage.php
> >
> > I hope they've done their homework.  There's a LOT of 5.8
> traffic in
> > their proposed service area--including Fisher Plaza.  And
> that's not
> > including all the new 5.8GHz phone systems scattered around.
> >
> >
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