Re: EU Votes Tomorrow on Right to Express Logic Freely in Code
Seth Johnson <[email protected]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:52:08 -0400
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The latest seems to be that they will vote to throw the Directive out. I, who always look for the moment of insight and awareness, when everything turns around in an instant, wonder whether somebody could make this the moment that a clear pitch would bring all parties around. I mean, it's pretty plain that they're backing down simply because Rocard's message has such simple clarity at this point and because the fact that the pro-sw-patent folks have been both deceived and deceptive is also clear. It basically comes down to: The pro-sw-patent folks have really been trying to codify the EPO case law rather than having an honest discussion of the matter on its own terms. At that point it becomes a simple question for the MEPs of who's really staking out an honest and forthright position here? A pitch that doesn't put across the above message, but plays on the situation instead, saying in practical and empathetic terms what the confusion really is, might convert the situation (I would summarize it as the pro-sw-patent folks holding onto the notion that there is abstraction in patents; but failing to recognize that pure abstraction at the level of logic, math and geometry is just not the same -- but there could be other somewhat empathetic couchings that might also fly). I really wish we could have this issue confronted forthrightly, and suddenly begin a new march in the dazzling light of reason once again. To seize victory out of the situation would be so *helpful* to us. But of course, according to reasonable calculus, that's not to be advised. A real statesperson might pull it off, but they'd really need to have an assured way to gauge the MEPs' response. It seemed to me that the speeches by Rocard, et al. this morning really almost did that already. Watch them and think about them this way. All told, the positions put across really seemed to me to devolve into a kind of obviousness as far as who was really right, who was standing on principle and honesty, even while the pro-sw-patent spokesperson presented the best fake and indirecting case possible with all the panache and audacity necessary for that to get as far as it could ever hope to go. This is probably why the call has shifted to dropping the Directive entirely, over the course of one day. Here are some links to the debate this morning, followed by a Reuter's article announcing the new plan to drop the Directive entirely. Debate streams: rtsp://streamebs.cec.eu.int/VoD/20050705/en/085651-092705_1120553811_1120555625_.rm rtsp://streamebs.cec.eu.int/VoD/20050705/en/092701-095709_1120555621_1120557429_.rm rtsp://streamebs.cec.eu.int/VoD/20050705/en/095708-102711_1120557428_1120559231_.rm rtsp://streamebs.cec.eu.int/VoD/20050705/en/102710-105716_1120559230_1120561036_.rm rtsp://streamebs.cec.eu.int/VoD/20050705/en/105711-112722_1120561031_1120562842_.rm rtsp://streamebs.cec.eu.int/VoD/20050705/en/112716-115730_1120562836_1120564650_.rm Reuters article: > http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2005-07-05T211406Z_01_KNE576495_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-TECH-EU-PATENTING.XML EU assembly to throw out patent bill Tue Jul 5, 2005 10:13 PM BST Printer Friendly | Email Article | RSS By Huw Jones STRASBOURG, France (Reuters) - The European Parliament will vote to kill an EU bill to patent software-related innovations, party officials said on Tuesday, shrugging off a warning from the European Commission that it would not submit fresh legislation. The issue has drawn heavy lobbying both by large technology companies such as Microsoft, Nokia and Siemens, who want better protection but opposed this version of the bill, and by advocates of narrower scope for patenting, who argued that wide patenting hurts smaller firms. The bill aims to harmonise how patents on "computer-implemented inventions" are applied across the EU. But at party meetings on Tuesday evening, members of the assembly's two dominant groups, the PSE socialists and the EPP centre-right, both decided to throw out the patent bill in a plenary vote on Wednesday, saying it would be safest to kill a bad bill that pleased nobody. "The EPP party meeting has just voted to reject the common position tomorrow morning," the group's spokesman Robert Fitzhenry told Reuters. Tony Robinson, spokesman for the PSE, said the group will also be voting to scrap the bill. The two groups combined have 468 deputies, easily passing the threshold needed to kill legislation in the 732-member assembly. Earlier in the day, the smaller ALDE liberal group, with 89 members, said it would also vote to reject the bill. A version of the bill agreed by the 25 member states of the EU left the assembly members divided and unable to muster the qualified majorities needed to amend it. "The rejection is the fallback option that everybody can understand in political terms and does not run the risk of the bill turning into a dog's breakfast (a mess)," liberal group spokesman Neil Corlett told Reuters, a view echoed by others. If the bill is not amended or killed, the member-state version would become law. "Since it is not sure that we can get a really good directive, then I would rather have no directive at all than one which could be misused to legitimise too much patenting," Eva Lichtenberger, a member of the Green party, told Reuters. The Greens and their allies in the assembly number 42. Lichtenberger hoped the debate will now turn to the possibility of an EU-based patent. Europe-wide patenting is currently handled by the European Patent Office with no recourse to a single court, forcing firms to defend them in each country -- a costly exercise. HEAVY LOBBYING The lawmakers came under intense lobbying from large technology companies who said the bill, with the changes sought by the European Parliament, would expose their products to copycat versions from China. The legislation was also opposed by groups seeking to limit the scope of patents they say stifle innovation and shut small firms out of markets. Campaigners handed out leaflets on the train used by lawmakers from Brussels to Strasbourg on Monday after bombarding parliamentarians with e-mails in recent weeks. The bill's sponsor in the parliament, French socialist Michel Rocard, rejected criticism. "I call upon our multinational corporations to make the effort and adjust. It won't be as tough as they seem to think it will be," the former French prime minister told the legislature earlier on Tuesday. But later in the day, as momentum grew to kill the bill, Rocard was preparing the ground for its collapse. "It's better to have no directive than the wrong one," he told reporters. "Rejection is much more preferable than accepting the common position. A law not based on consensus works badly while a consensual law works better." Party sources said the common stance of the member states was also breaking down, making broad consensus on the bill even more difficult to obtain. NO NEW BILL At a debate on the bill on Tuesday morning, Britain's Andrew Duff of the liberals said killing the bill would also be unsatisfactory. "To fail to legislate at all would leave the industry to the mercy of the European Patent Office, the courts and panels of the World Trade Organisation. That could be a costly, legalistic and confusing situation," Duff said. Several members called for the European Commission, which proposed the legislation, to revisit the drawing board and come back with a fresh draft. However, the Brussels executive rejected drafting a new proposal and Economic Affairs Commissioner Joaquin Almunia warned that allowing the bill to fail would hurt the EU aim of increasing the 25-nation bloc's economic competitiveness. "The Commission believes that the common position meets the requirements of introducing predictable framework that promotes and rewards innovation," Almunia told lawmakers. Seth Johnson wrote: > > This is such a critical vote, and while it's still not clear > whether the set of amendments put forth by Rocard, designed to > assure a clear exclusion of software from patentability, will > garner the necessary 367 votes, it is nevertheless very clear > that the pro-software patent forces are running scared. They are > also showing their true colors in advance of the vote in a way > that they didn't for the First Reading of September 2003. > > If we win the Second Reading vote, the EU Commission and Council > evidently plan to drop the Directive entirely. In my estimation, > the effort will still be profoundly successful. The tricks have > been played out, and the nature of the issue is now much more > clearly understood. Our forces will be marshalled, as well, and > we'll likely see more and more sideliners come out with strong > support. As that happens, we'll also see the issue discussed in > its own nature, rather than according to blind, jingoistic > appeals to property rights to information as the source of > innovation. > > If they keep the Directive, then the EPO's practice will > naturally undergo reconsideration, despite their not presently > being subject to effective EU oversight. If they don't keep the > Directive, then a successful Second Reading vote will still stand > as a strong historical register. > > If we don't win this Second Reading vote, then we will finally > taste the effects of software patents, as the EU's explicit > exclusion of software from patentability is basically the only > reason why we have not seen more software patent cases > prosecuted. > > Seth -- RIAA is the RISK! Our NET is P2P! http://www.nyfairuse.org/action/ftc DRM is Theft! We are the Stakeholders! New Yorkers for Fair Use http://www.nyfairuse.org [CC] Counter-copyright: http://realmeasures.dyndns.org/cc I reserve no rights restricting copying, modification or distribution of this incidentally recorded communication. Original authorship should be attributed reasonably, but only so far as such an expectation might hold for usual practice in ordinary social discourse to which one holds no claim of exclusive rights.