Re: Gregnews on Lehmann, Kretschmer, China Daily
Bernard Lang <[email protected]> Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:16:27 +0200
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I did not find Lehman's article very good, not that I expected anything from him. He just plays on arguments for the naive readers, which is of course the best way to achieve his aims in this kind of medium. http://www.careerjournal.com/columnists/managersjournal/20050831-managersjournal.html Mechanical as ever, the Gregbot rants about copyright. I am interested in having more references to arguments against copyright. If anyone can provide these ... I would appreciate. --- The Chinese article is unaldurated FUD. It would be nice to fully understand what is behind. Bernard * PILCH Hartmut <[email protected]>, le 16-09-05, a écrit: > GregNews reports and rants around the theme of defending the > "science and logics" software patents against the "illogicality" > of copyright. > > DELL SUED FOR SOFTWARE COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT > > A good example of the shoddy thinking and abuse of science and law in the > copyright world is a new copyright lawsuit. [...] > > Here's the silliness. One news account writes: > > "[MCS] claims the Dell version mimics Advizia's appearance, > and functionality, and uses its copyrighted algorithms and > other intellectual property, without showing the Advizia > logo." > > [...] > > Then, as you might expect, Greg can't resist jeering that Advizia should > have known that copyright isn't up to the task of protecting appearance > and functionality and algorithms. > > BRUCE LEHMAN'S GOOD, BUT HYPOCRITICAL WSJ DEFENSE OF SOFTWARE PATENTS > > Former PTO Commissioner, now IP-pork chasing consultant, Brucey Lehman has > an opinion piece, "Don't Fear Software Patents", in the August 30 edition > of the Wall Street Journal, page B2, defending software patents. Usually > it's hard for me to agree with him on anything, given his contempt for > quality when it comes to IP policies and practices, but this time his > defense of software patents is pretty good. [...] > > [...] > > What puzzles Brucey is what is driving all of the emotions in the European > debate. Between the lines I see him asking "Why doesn't my nice argument > convince everyone in Europe?". But he can't answer that question because > what drives the European debate is a nonsense - nonsense that Brucey and > his colleagues blindly and illogical defend - the nonsense of software > copyright. > > [...] > > Then comes the usual rant which attributes all kinds of "illogical" positions > to the opponents of software patents and claims that the proponents could > easily win if only they could clearly disavow software copyright like Greg > and thereby gain a consistent basis for their arguments. > > CHINA RESEARCHERS CRITICIZE OPEN SOURCE ECONOMICS > > The article, "Open Opposition" is available at: > http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-08/29/content_472979.htm > > Some quotes: > > "Indifference to knowledge-based products is the major obstacle to > China's software industry as well as the major source of rampant > piracy." The business model is Linux is flawed, the [China Software > Industry Association] said in a report last week. ... The model has > thwarted the profitability of open-source software. > > Sun Yufang, a Chinese scholar who has long been researching Linux > software, says most Linux developers cannot make a living under > the current business model. Most of these developers "either have > died or have focused on other businesses in past years", Sun says. > > This again is suggested to GregNews readers as an argumentative weapon > in their war against the "opensource movement" and against the copyright-based > software IP system which it supposedly represents. > > PAPER: USELESSNESS OF COPYRIGHT FOR PROMOTING PROGRESS > > Martin Kretschmer, an IP scholar in Europe, has a paper in the December > 2004 First Monday arguing that copyright neither appears to support the > creative basis of society, nor does it make cultural materials available > in legal form that legitimises creative digital re-use. The paper is at: > > http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_1/kretschmer > > It should be noted that Kretschmer has also clearly voiced opposition to > software patents by signing our Call for Action II. > > Many aspects of today's use of copyright are indeed outrageous, especially > when thinking of "cultural materials" and their "creative digial re-use". > Films and musical works are being effectively locked out of the public > sphere by copyright holders, who aren't even pursuing the in interests of > the authors themselves. > > This question is quite unrelated to the central question on which the > swpat vs copyright debate raged: that of the scope of claimed property. > > See also > > http://wiki.ffii.org/IndpropEn > > on discussions about the directions of future reform toward an integrated > system of "intellectual & industrial property". > > -- > Hartmut Pilch, FFII.org, Munich Office +498918979927, Brussels +3227396262 > Protect Innovation, not Monopolies http://www.economic-majority.com/ -- Le brevet logiciel menace votre entreprise Software patents threaten your company Soutenez la Majorité Économique - Support the Economic Majority http://www.economic-majority.com/ [email protected] ,_ /\o \o/ Tel +33 1 3963 5644 http://pauillac.inria.fr/~lang/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fax +33 1 3963 5469 INRIA / B.P. 105 / 78153 Le Chesnay CEDEX / France Je n'exprime que mon opinion - I express only my opinion