Re: IPv6 Policy Proposal for LACNIC Region

Kosuke and all,

Kosuke Ito wrote:

> Hi, German and all
>
> I do understand that LACNIC community like to have their
> own "bootstrap" condition for deploying IPv6 in LACNIC
> region, but I do NOT like to have it with an open jaw
> condition, anyway.

 Our members in the LACNIC area are in full and undivided
support of a global view which is what I have been saying
all along.  This seems to be in agreement with your
stated position on such a proposed policy as you
state below.

>
>
> And, I would like to know other RIRs people's view on
> this matter, and how LACNIC consider the possible side
> effect to the global community once the LACNIC special
> condition is implemented.
> I believe that RIRs/NIRs community should have a single
> view (even though each region has a different need) on
> the global coordinated policy like the IPv6 policy which
> was built up on the large amount of efforts balancing many
> factors from the global point of view, since the IP address
> space is a global resourse shared accross the globe.
> And RIRs/NIRs, I personally believe, should set a allowance
> of changing the global policy to accomodate a local need.
> When it needs to change (locally), possible effects after
> the change should be discussed from the global resourse
> management point of view at the same time.

  Exactly our members view in so many words as again
I have stated several times now, despite Michael Dillons
improper and inaccurate characterizations to the contrary.

>
>
> I would not like to see avalanche multiplication on relaxing
> the allocation conditions initiating from LACNIC to all other
> regions... This is my worry.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kosuke
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>   > German and all,
>   >
>   >   I wonder when if ever LACNIC will be seeking advisory input from
>   > the stakeholders/users in their region?  I also wonder if LACNIC
>   > does seek such input, that the desires and requirements of those
>   > participating stakeholders/users will be adheared to in a responsible
>   > and direct way?
>   >
>   > German Valdez wrote:
>   >
>   >
>   >>Hi Izumi
>   >>
>   >>sorry for delay
>   >>
>   >>It is intention of the RIR to work in common policies, like the IPv6
> one,
>   >>when this is possible.
>   >>
>   >>Nevertheless, this IPv6 policy proposal is the result of a regional
> need.
>   >>So far has accomplished all the step of our Policy Development Process.
>   >>
>   >>Even though common policies may work well they are not bindig for the
> RIR.
>   >>
>   >>We are aware that this proposal is broken a common policy. For this
> reason
>   >>we are sharing this criteria with the Global IPv6 community.
>   >>
>   >>This 45 days period of comment  (which ends at january 23rd) is not
> part of
>   >>the policy development process, however is a faculty of LACNIC's
> Board to
>   >>do this. The reason was to recieve more comments from the global
> community
>   >>before the Board made a decision.
>   >>
>   >>Regards
>   >>
>   >>German Valdez
>   >>Policy Liaison
>   >>LACNIC
>   >>
>   >>At 12:07 AM 1/7/2004, Izumi Okutani wrote:
>   >>
>   >>>It had been my understanding that IPv6 policy would be co-ordinated
>   >>>among the RIRs, but this seems to imply a regional policy like IPv4.
>   >>>
>   >>>That's also one method of the policy process that's proved to work
>   >>>well, but it should at least be a concious decision by the RIRs(or its
>   >>>communities).
>   >>>
>   >>>Could someone from the RIRs share the position about this?
>   >>>
>   >>>Izumi
>   >>>JPNIC
>   >>>
>   >>>From: German Valdez <[email protected]>
>   >>>Subject: [GLOBAL-V6]IPv6 Policy Proposal for LACNIC Region
>   >>>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:16:29 -0300
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>>
>   >>>>FYI LACNIC is calling for last comments for new policies to be applied
>   >>>
>   >>>next
>   >>>
>   >>>>year. One of this policies is a new criteria for IPv6 Initial
> allocation.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>This proposal is the result of the analysis of the LACNIC IPv6 WG
> and the
>   >>>>discussion held during our Open Policy Forum in The Havana, Cuba
>   >>>>
>   >>>>You can review this proposal at http://lacnic.net/en/last-call.html
>   >>>>
>   >>>>On december 9th we started a 45 days period for comments for these
>   >>>>policies, including the IPv6 one. Comments will be received
> through our
>   >>>>policy public list [email protected], subscription to this list
> is open
>   >>>>at http://lacnic.net/en/lists.html. Any comments are welcomed.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>Regards
>   >>>>
>   >>>>
>   >>>>
>   >>>>German Valdez
>   >>>>Policy Liaison
>   >>>>LACNIC
>   >>>>
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>   >
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Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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