RE: [narten-r/[email protected]: PI addressing in IPv6 advances in ARIN]

Mohacsi Janos <[email protected]> Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:51:32 +0200 (CEST)
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.v6ops,gmane.org.apnic.global-v6
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, James Jun wrote:

>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 1:21 PM
>> To: james-qgwYH1rQKO9Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [narten-r/[email protected]: PI addressing in IPv6 advances in ARIN]
>>
>> On 14-apr-2006, at 18:09, James Jun wrote:
>>
>>> How about you start operating a real network and feel the pain of your
>>> enterprise customers who require usability?
>>
>> How about you do a "show ip bgp" and experience some pain of your own?
>>
>>> IPv6 is a failure
>>
>> IPv6 was created so we could continue to have an internet when we're
>> out of IPv4 addresses. We're not out of IPv4 addresses yet. How can
>> IPv6 be a failure at this point?
>>
>>> because of
>>> ongoing FUD regarding so called 'routing table explosion' that even
>>> IPv4 is
>>> still susceptible to,
>>
>> We've managed to make a fairly big mess of IPv4 in 25 years. Yes, it
>> still works but it's not pretty. IPv6 is supposed to last a lot
>> longer than 25 years, so explosions of any kind are to be discouraged.
>
> Yes, discouraging customers from multihoming and delivering
> reliability--that appears to be the common message from a good portion of
> IPv6-advocacy groups.  IPv6 is still IP, and not anything different than
> IPv4 other than a color: more address space.  If it is all of a sudden going
> to require shim6 or similar, and discourage multihoming like the way it
> happens today in IPv4, it certainly does not help.

There is some solution to provide some form multihoming for IPv6:
3178 IPv6 Multihoming Support at Site Exit Routers. J. Hagino, H.
        Snyder. October 2001. (Format: TXT=24453 bytes) (Status:
        INFORMATIONAL

This solution is not very pretty, but you can keep the aggregation at 
Tier-1 and probably at Tier-2 porviders.

Regards,

Janos Mohacsi
Network Engineer, Research Associate
NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY
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